#you know thor is gonna go throw his room all ‘I USED TO HAVE ONE!’ just so he can give it to jane so she can take apart #maybe he can’t find out and asks volstagg for one bc his kids have 300 #but also!!! THAT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS AN ASGARDIAN BALL IS SO ADVANCED #and jane finds such wonder in it #and even when she realised that it’s ball it doesn’t take away from it #and thor doesn’t mock her for it #he thinks it’s cute #he’s definitely gonna find that ball #he’s sure he had one #maybe he broke it
Yeah, I can’t resist to reblog just to remind everybody that Thor fell for Jane Foster in the first place because she was so damn clever, and curious, and passionate about her work, and obstinate, and he was impressed and amazed and so touched to see the humans more resourceful than he thought and hey, here is another bit of Thor’s personality, he’s just so happy to have been proven wrong now that it allows him to see the best in people—
I just fail to understand why so many would dislike Jane Foster, and even more erase her character from their works; she is absolutely marvellous, both unbelievable and terribly realistic, adorable and awkward, driven but sweet, kind but relentless, and so fucking gifted. And there are people wondering why Thor is interested in her?! Argh!
Also this scene is quite wonderful: you have two people who had a crush on each other last time they met, but who have been unable to see each other since, and the current events are hardly allowing them to get to know each other better—and they kinda find themselves in the same situation they were last time, and you see how they reconnect and it’s just perfect. Perfectly untimely and a little bit tragic, too.
You see; this, this right here, is why I like them together. Jane is utterly fascinated by this child’s toy and Thor thinks that’s amazing. How someone could find wonder in something that he probably takes for granted. This relationship doesn’t get nearly enough love in this fandom, because people are to busy hating on the female character that the main character loves. And I really don’t understand that. I think that, originally, Jane was sort of meant to be the audience substitute. The person who asks all the questions that the audience might have about the world that Thor inhabits. But the cool part about Jane is that she’s more than that. She’s the kind of scientist who finds the universe an endlessly fascinating place, and all the things that she’s encountered through her relationship with Thor has opened her up to possibilities that no one on Earth has ever even dreamed of.
TL;DR: Jane is one awesome Science Lady and she deserves more respect for that.
Not only is Jane the audience’s substitute, but she is the audience’s clever and curious substitute, something practically unheard of in a fantasy or sci-fi blockbuster; usually the role of the audience’s viewpoint is filled in by a male character who ends up being the saviour of the indigenous species, thanks to all his Earthly knowledge.
Jane is both characteristically human and extraordinarily curious, filled with joy at the prospect of learning something new. She doesn’t dread the unknown, she sees an opportunity to learn more about the world. This is so very precious, so damn positive. And the best thing is that it still feels completely effortless. People who claim she doesn’t have a personality clearly haven’t seen the same movies I have.
Perhaps not so strangely, Thor and Jane’s relationship when it comes to science reminds me of the best hours of Doctor Who, where an old and learned character from a terribly advanced civilization took an evident pleasure in getting to see the universe anew through the virgin eyes of curious and eager companions.
Thor himself is a formidable and deep character, because he obviously loves to learn as well. He adapts incredibly quickly, and he’s all ready to transform a prejudice into a life lesson. You can visibly see that what attracts him in Jane is her strength, her strengths, and certainly not the prospect of hovering over a frail and tiny human. When he looks at her, he doesn’t see tiny, he doesn’t see petty and ignorant; on the contrary, he sees greatness in mind and in potential.
This is such an unusual way of portraying romantic relationships, you have no idea. It makes me so angry to see people in the fandom retort that Jane is no role model for them because she’s too good, or because she’s not Asgardian, or because she’s not Loki. She is both exceptional and so laughably, so warmly human—typically human, but without the mandatory arrogance that clings to male characters in similar situations.
#Foster’s Fellows indeed.
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I love how Thor learns to interact by watching and listening. Look at that last gif. She is showing acceptance and appreciation to him by touching his arm, so he reciprocates! Because he appreciates her too.
It does amuse me when people say that Jane and Thor don’t have enough time on screen for people to ‘find them convincing’, when people ship Phil Coulson and Hawkeye together DESPITE THE FACT THEY HAD ONE CONVERSATION AND THEY WEREN’T EVEN ON SCREEN TOGETHER.
The hilarious thing is how ‘they don’t have enough time together’ is the start of a long line of goalpost adjustments.
Once you point out their onscreen time together is comparable to, say, Tony and Pepper and vastly in excess of Tony and Steve, then it becomes, ‘Well but they barely know one another’. When you indicate that Steve and Tony have, to all appearances, only just met in Avengers, now we’re on to ‘But they have a rich comics history’. And then when you point out Jane and Thor have been interacting in the comics since
19641962 (I should have gone with my instinct, it was 1962), it’s ‘Well but this is a very different Jane’. And then you remind them that the MCU is not the comics, and they finally fall back on ‘Well but she’s whiny and clingy and not a good female character like *insert one of the ass-kicking women like Sif or Natasha or Maria here*’.And so finally the goalpost has reached its real level: ‘Jane Foster in the MCU is not what I think a woman should be. She’s too focused on her career and helps the hero save the whole universe and possesses an Infinity Stone without dropping dead on the spot and has had the eponymous protagonist of the story tell her she’s right and should keep striving instead of the other way around like it usually is with the dude’s woman counterpart and that’s just too much involvement for me’.
In other words, Jane is on her own footing in terms of skill and competency, separate from Thor. It’s not Jane who wanders into Thor’s story; it’s Thor who wanders into hers. And the fandom is beside itself to negate her in all ways as a result, to an extent they don’t Natasha or Maria or Pepper (though Pepper gets a lot of erasure too, let’s be real), including but not limited to setting almost-impossible-to-meet standards for her to have a relationship with an alien who wields a weapon made of matter harvested from a stellar core and who can control the weather. All of that last bit is totes okay, but them diving headlong into a relationship? UNPOSSIBLE.
Woops. I ranted. I should finish my coffee.
consider this:
thor is always running into little kids who are thrilled to meet him – he doesn’t really understand the concept of signing autographs, but he starts carrying asgardian toys around in his pockets to give to kids he meets (much to shield’s chagrin – how are we supposed to keep alien tech under control when the god of thunder is giving out magnetic propulsion toys to five-year-olds?)
but one day, he meets this girl who’s nine, maybe ten, and she runs up to him all misty-eyed and immediately asks him if he knows jane foster
and her mother’s embarrassed because “honey, that’s thor, aren’t you excited to see thor?” but the girl just explains that she wants to be a scientist when she grows up, and that jane foster is the astrophysicist (she pronounces the word carefully, as if she’s been practicing) who found out how the rainbow bridge worked – isn’t that so cool? she read about it in kids discover and they watched a documentary in school and dr. foster was in it and it made her think that maybe because she likes planets so much she could be a scientist, too
and thor smiles broadly and tells her that wanting to be a scientist is a noble dream, and he says “if your mother would be willing, i could introduce you”
and that’s how jane foster ends up with a tiny science geek in pigtails trailing around behind her in her lab, asking how everything works. jane can’t really comprehend the fact that a kid would want to meet her, but she likes explaining things and she looks at this girl and can’t help seeing herself. thor is just fucking delighted because to him the idea of jane being a child’s hero makes perfect sense, why wouldn’t it? she’s jane
and years later the girl grows up to be an astrophysicist or an astronaut or an aerospace engineer and she never forgets the time that dr. jane foster knelt down beside her and said, don’t let anybody stop you from chasing the stars, if that’s what you want
jane foster inspiring girls in science, y/y
Theory:
Peter Quill actually only had trouble holding the infinity stone because he’s half Terran.
A fully human Terran would have done much better.
I mean, Jane Foster had the aether inside of her in Thor 2, and that seemed pretty potent (and potentially could have been another infinity stone, besides).
In fact, considering all of the mutants and badassery and whatnot that abounds in the Marvel universe, and the heavy-hitters Terrans can produce with just a little genetic tweaking or gamma radiation, it’s possible that Asgard took to ‘safeguarding’ Midgard in the first place because Odin figured out that the natives are scary as balls.
Maybe during the war with the frost giants, certain humans started manifesting strange/special abilities to deal with the threat, and Asgard’s scientists/wizards/etc figured out that the poor puny Midgardians were like a sleeping monster, and the aggression of the frost giants was ‘waking them up’.
So Odin stepped in to stop them and to try and keep people from interfering with Midgard as much as possible, so the monster would stay sleeping.
Which is actually part of why he is so very pissed off at Loki for the events of Avengers, and at Thor for bringing Jane to Asgard – it’s a very, very tight secret that Midgard is a powder keg full of potential super-warriors, and Odin does not want that getting out, and he does not want them getting out. If Earth can stay as a nice, quiet, backwater planet with very little contact with the larger universe, that’s safer for everyone involved.