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I had a very very strange Doctor Who dream last night: some way or another Rose, Jackie, Martha and the Doctor ended up in the same place. First they had to take down some ogre-like monster, and Martha suceeded by feeding it banana yogurt. At some point, though, Martha got in the way of the machine-gun Rose was somehow firing, and Rose shouted “Get out of the way, you idiot!” And since through the dream I was feeling what Martha was feeling, I felt desperately embarassed. Then all the characters, apart from the Doctor who was doing something else, sat down to eat at a big table. Martha said to Rose “We got off on the wrong foot, can’t we be friends?” or something like that. Both Rose and Jackie then started utterly abusing the poor girl, which is very out of character for both of them. Then after that the Doctor came back in and delivered an impassioned speech, during which Jackie relented of her behaviour and starting holding Martha’s hand. (She was crying by this point) Then Martha pleaded to Rose once again to at least accept her, but Rose started yelling “No! I’m his companion! He chose ME! Me and me alone!” Martha said, “But what about all the other companions who came before you?” and after that, I think, I woke up.

It sounds dead funny now, but in the dream it wasn’t! Cos I was Martha all the way through, and I was being virtually tortured by Rose and sobbing my eyes out!

Perhaps a scene similar to this will show up in fanfic at some point. For now, though, I think I shall make myself some Martha icons…

Another dilemma

And once again DW related. DW fanfiction related…

What’s better? A happy ending or an ambigious one? Because towards the ending there is a question, and the answer from almost all the characters is ‘I don’t know’. The ending can either reinforce that, or it can say ‘Actually..the answer is more yes.’ Hmmm.

Oh, all right. The question is in fact, ‘Is the Doctor worth the monsters?’ and the story can either end with Rose crying on the beach -saying to the reader ‘Well, decide for yourself. If she gets over it, maybe the answer’s yes. If she doesn’t, guess it’s a no.’ Or it can end with Rose taking Mickey’s hand and saying ‘Let’s go defend the Earth’ – this time saying to the reader ‘Looks like the answer’s yes, then.’ Oh, I don’t know. I really don’t know. But the happy ending is a sort of redemption for Rose, and…*groans* It’s so complicated. Dammit.

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Ooh.

Rose: ‘Can I get you anything?’
Alt-Jackie: ‘Yeah…the last twenty years back.’

In Real-Jackie’s timeline, Pete has been dead for roughly twenty years, depending on how old Rose actually is now. But by the end of the show, she has Pete back (a version of him, anyway), her daughter back- everything she ever wanted.

Rose did give her the last twenty years of her life back!

I swear all these thoughts wil be put in coherent essay format soon.

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You know…sometimes I get the feeling the series works better if you watch it from Jackie and Mickey’s POV rather than Rose’s. Overall, I mean. Because throughout both series, they change for the better and get a happy ending. Jackie’s husband comes back from the dead, almost, and saves her daughter- and then she gets a lovely house*, a complete family, and a new baby. Everything she’s ever wanted, just about. And Mickey gets to be a hero, and gains Jake and a gang of rebels, and his grandmother back and then Rose and Jackie too. Awesome for the both of them.

And then there’s Rose, and to be honest, I really don’t know what to make of her last scenes. About the ‘I’m never gonna leave you’ thing- yes, it was her decision, yes, she deserves to be able to make her own decisions- but Jackie would stay behind in Pete’s universe for her entire life and she’d never know if Rose was alive or dead or happy or what- her daughter would be as good as dead. She’d be unhappy for the rest of her life, and Rose could have prevented it- but she loves the Doctor and she wanted to stay with him, and she was right when she said everyone leaves home in the end. But…I don’t know. I really don’t know. And it would have been one seriously depressing tragedy if Rose had actually died.

Or, if she’d been able to carry on with the Doctor and eventually, say, he regenerated- but this time into someone she didn’t like. Or the Time Lords came back and he had to leave her for them, or something. Where we she go then? Nowhere, because she’d seperated herself from everybody. And she’d have had to leave the Doctor someday.

Everyone leaves home in the end.

So, the ending. I don’t know. What I really wanted was for her to realise that she had to grow up. Like Sarah Jane did, walking away. I wanted her to realise that the life she’s living is impossible, and that she can make a difference on Earth, or something- but she didn’t. There’s still hope that she’ll learn, on alt-earth, that she was lucky- but we’ll probably not see it. Unless she shows up again. Which I hope she does.

Sigh.

It depends which way you look at it?

Anyway. What do you think Jackie and Pete will call their new baby?

*I love the Tyler’s new house. I want to live there. Except not in the alt-verse (too many zeppelins).

Doctor Who: Doomsday

Typing this while watching Confidential:

When Rose was saved from the void by Pete, I applauded. Applauded madly and my hands still hurt. It felt so right, you know? So perfect.

I also cried, nearly, at the Last Goodbye scene. Honestly, I can’t find anything to say about that, because I know others will have done it better.

And I also admit that when Rose said ‘I’m never gonna leave you.’, even if it meant never seeing her mother again, I shouted ‘YOU IDIOT’ at the screen. Sigh. I also shouted ‘SHE HAS ABANDONED HER MOTHER TO A LIFE OF DESPAIR!’ which sounds hilarious, but there’s probably a grain of truth of it, because there would be a mother who could never see her daughter again…and if that’s not a tragedy, what is?

I grinned widly at pregnant!Jackie. Oh, I’m so so glad she didn’t die. She deserved her happy ending.

Also loved the Jackie/Pete reunion, and the way their hug mirrored the Rose/Doctor hug from The Satan Pit.

Mickey was awesome. Didn’t have much to do, but still was awesome. Leading on to…

The Doctor kissed him! Ha! I predict that will be on a thousand icons by the end of today, and possibly mine as well.

You know…I wonder what will become of Mickey and Rose’s relationship. I imagine it’ll settle into merely a good friendship, but…maybe it’ll evolve into something else, on the grounds that a) she’s already had a relationship with him and b) he’s a time traveller now, just like her.

One last thing? I loved that Rose was wearing a leather jacket at the end. Sigh.

I kind of do hope she comes back for one episode, somehow, in a few series’ time. Maybe the TARDIS does another crash-landing on alt-Earth, and the Doctor immediately goes to find Rose, causing much angst for Martha Jones.

Oh, there’s so much fanfic I want to write. I’ll see y’all later.

She Learned- a Rose/Doctor fanmix

Thought I’d better post this before the chaos of tonight. ;) Anyway, here we have a Rose/Doctor fanmix with the focus mostly on Rose, although there’s a couple of Doctor songs in there too. It’s not exactly light and fluffy, I have to warn you- it’s for those, like me, who actually like the dark, screwed up, hubris-y side of their relationship. ;)

Been working on it for several weeks, am quite pleased with some of the songs. (Especially -‘Don’t Think You’re The First’ – the most perfect song for School Reunion I’ve ever seen). Mild spoilers/speculation for Doomsday ahead. :)

Enjoy, y’all. :D

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Doctor Who: Rise of the Cybermen

Oh my god, Mickey. This is going to be his couple of episodes, you can tell…and we learned so much about him and my heart just bloody broke.

So *that’s* where it all stems from…all the insistance that he’s probably useless, all the fake self-confidence we saw in Rose and all the rest. His gran brought him up, and Mickey didn’t fix the carpet and she tripped and broke her neck. Blimey.

And his mother ‘couldn’t cope’- what did Rose mean by that? We came to her in mid-sentence, so there could have been anything there. Maybe she couldn’t cope because she never wanted a kid, or she couldn’t cope because Mickey had a brother or sister who died, or something. And his Dad left (which, I am slightly proud to say, is one detail in my fanfics I got right, ha) and then his gran died. And in the parallel ‘verse she’s alive, so Mickey’s essentially facing the same choice Rose is- if you found a world where your dead loved ones still lived, what would you do?

And his dad was called Jackson Smith and worked in a key shop. *notes that down for future fic*

Slight spoilers/speculation for future episodes now: scroll down to read:

-There’s been lots of talk (although, I think, nothing concrete) about Mickey choosing to stay on alt-Earth, and although I hated the idea first (what about Jackie? The real Jackie?) I can buy it now. Although what I’d love the most would be Mickey going back to the estate and living with Jackie (I’m not what you’d call a shipper, but I love the relationship between those two) or Mickey opting to stay for a bit and asking the Doctor to pick him up later. Although it doesn’t look like that’s possible. Sigh.

Real spoiler now, but if you were alright reading the above you’ll probably be alright reading this too: Noel Clarke’s in episodes 12 and 13 too, according to OG. So at least no matter what happens, it won’t be quite the end. Whew.

Oh, and the Cybermen? They were pretty good too. ;)

My Midnight (Rose fic)

This is why I haven’t updated my journal for almost a week. ;)

Title: My Midnight
Author: sarah531
Rating: PG13
Characters: Rose, Ten, Mickey, Jackie, Sarah Jane, others
A/N: Very very long one-shot
Summary: trag·e·dy n. pl. trag·e·dies – 1. A drama or literary work in which the main character is brought to ruin or suffers extreme sorrow, especially as a consequence of a tragic flaw, moral weakness, or inability to cope with unfavorable circumstances

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Doctor Who: The Girl In The Fireplace

Hmmm…I have mixed feelings about this one.

The good:

-Mickey- of course. ‘Mickey Smith, meet the universe. See anything you like?’ I love him and his normality and saying dumb things. ‘It looks so realistic!’ Now if only he had had more to do…but I suspect that comes along next week.

-Rose being nice. As in…not being jealous, not being bitchy…being actually concerned about Reinette, and then about the Doctor at the end. I love this Rose, and hope she stays.

Maybe it was School Reunion that brought this on? She knows there’ll always be others, and while he may love her, he loves them too?

-Oh, and I love that Madame du Pompadour has a first name we can use for her now.

-Drunk Doctor.

The bad:

So…he jumped through the mirror and trapped Rose and Mickey on the other side, and himself on Reinette’s side. I do think the two of them probably could have got back without him…there must be some ‘Doctor has done something stupid’ emergency program in there somewhere. But still. And Rose probably knew, somehow, that he’d be coming back, and he did, but all the same he didn’t know he’d be coming back…he essentially abandoned her in a spur-of-the-moment decision. Oh please, RTD, or whoever’s writing the next lot of episodes, let this have consequences. Did Rose even know that by jumping through the mirror he was leaving her – did she know that once he did that the portal would close, or did she assume he’d be able to get back anyway? Will she one day go back and find Sarah Jane and say ‘He abandoned me once, too?’

…hold it there! I want to write that.

So, yes, writers, let this have consequences! Like what you didn’t do with the whole Adam thing. Please please please? Then it wouldn’t bug me nearly so much.

I do think they’re setting things up for Rose’s departure, now. She may love him, and he may love her, but he’s an alien. I bet by next week, he’ll have forgotten Reinette as well.

Off the subject of that episode: I miss Jackie. I adore Jackie- the thing I love about this series is how it contrasts the extraodinary with the ordinary. Rose may be off meeting dead French people and getting captured by monsters and welding big space guns, but Jackie’s got to tidy the flat and pay the electricity bill and stuff. That’s why I love the episodes set on the Powell Estate so much…I can’t quite explain. I hope she’s back next week, anyway.