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Who the fuck goes to a marvel film and gives a shot about politics???

I’m glad you asked!

“I think the idea that this is the most political Marvel film, or the most political comic-book film comes up a lot, but [Black Panther] should be, because of who the character is – the character is literally a politician, and he’s an African King. There’s no way we could do right by this character and not have it be political.” Ryan Coogler, director of Black Panther

“Just because a person was elected doesn’t mean everybody agrees with the things he’s going to do. Having to make the first decisions … what do you do first? What do you choose to do that’s going to get everybody on your side? It’s a political drama essentially.” – Chadwick Boseman on Black Panther

“That struggle and complexity, I found really compelling. I thought a lot about people who work in federal government—who have a change of office happen and go from one leadership to another but still retain the integrity of the institution. The idea of going from one presidency to another. But you have to stay there and serve the institution, serve the nation in the way that has been done for generations, regardless of how you feel. It was a very interesting parallel when we were shooting right around the early part of 2017.” – Danai Gurira on her Black Panther character

“Everyone’s very polarized, and it’s very divisive. So I guess it’s nice playing a character that does his best to not let his political bias dictate his choices, because I know I’m certainly guilty of doing that at times.”Chris Evans, the man who plays a character named Captain America who wears an American flag and was created by two Jewish men during WW2 to punch Hitler in the face, you know, that guy

“[Marvel] said they wanted to make a political thriller. So we said if you want to make a political thriller, all the great political thrillers have very current issues in them that reflect the anxiety of the audience.” – Joe Russo, Captain America:  Civil War director

“They’re telling normal stories. Like “Captain America: Civil War,” take away all the stunts, and explosions and stuff — there’s actually a really interesting debate going on in there, and some interesting character stuff going on. Some interesting stakes and in a way it’s a political thriller. So yeah. For me, it’s not about giving filmmakers a chance to blow things up. It’s about being able to tell really good stories with a really spectacular backdrop.” – Taikia Watiti, Thor: Ragnarok director, on the MCU

“There’s a lot to [Bucky] that’s very real to our world. This ambivalent place he’s in. Should there be a government that’s able to control things in a different way? Or is it about individuals and liberties?” – Sebastian Stan on Civil War

“It is incredibly political. It has to do with who sold weapons to whom, and who’s using it against whom, and what people think is what Stark is doing isn’t. [The weapons were] just sold on the black market, and how many times have we heard about other people using different countries’ weapons? It’s all taken from history and from present day.” – Elizabeth Olsen on Age of Ultron

And finally, assuming I navigated your tumblr/wordpress and its collection of vague, fawning, desperately dull movie reviews correctly:

“To brush up quickly the government sets to intervene with what are the Sokovia Accords, creating a rift between our superheroes. Eventually separating the crew making it Team Captain America and Team Iron Man. Each of them thinks they’re making the right decision by signing or not signing the Sokovia Accords, emerging into a compelling battle.” – You, in 2016, talking about something political that happened in a Marvel film that was about politics, or what exactly do you think government, intervening, accords, and signatures are about?

(PS: Proofreading is easy, and free.)

trasholland:

may is peter’s parental figure. tony is peter’s mentor for spider-man. peter doesn’t need tony as a parental figure, he needs aunt may.

Uncle Ben’s his parent too, although who knows if he’ll ever get mentioned

shurisgroot:

i don’t think i’ve ever seen it discussed, and maybe i’m just behind on things because i don’t engage with the MCU fandom often, but entertain me on this: 

a lot of people have peter quill returning to earth and basically the only people who ever remember him are his grandparents (who we know are alive circa 2014). 

and that’s…i mean, it’s great and heartwarming and all, but there is a bigger way that this could play out

(yes, before i get into this, i will say that thousands of children disappear every year without being found and only a few make national news, and when it does the slant is racial, to say the least, but let’s approach this more from a “this is a comic book movie universe” perspective)

but entertain me on this notion; peter quill was a cute 8/9 year old boy from missouri whose mother tragically died of brain cancer at a young age and he vanished without a trace that night. 

it’s incredibly likely that this made the news. it was a sensational story. 

it’s similarly likely that it was JonBenet Ramsey style tabloid fodder, at least in the American South/Midwest for years and years afterwards. 

so imagine that american superheroes who were alive at the time (hawkeye, iron man, scott lang, etc.) have probably heard the name peter quill before. they were probably similarly aged enough to have heard it as a cautionary tale. the more morbid among them probably speculated what happened. 

i’m just saying that there’s a world of possibility for peter’s return to earth in that he wasn’t just forgotten to the annals of time. there could be netflix documentaries about him, there could be wild conspiracies that he was abducted by aliens, or maybe he was never real – all of the horrible shit we make up when bad things happen to children, people said that about peter quill in the late 80s. i wanna see more of that, i’m interested in how it plays out.

DR STRANGE: And now, the six saddened superheroes of Infinity War in their rendition of “The Cell Block Thanos.”

[Drumbeat]

THOR: Axe-

TONY: Blood-

OKOYE: Splat-

GROOT: I am Groot!

GAMORA: Guardians-

WANDA: Vision-

ALL: He has it coming! He has it coming! He only has himself to blame! And since you’ve been there, and since you’ve seen it, I bet that you wanna do the same!

THOR: You know how people have these little habits that get you down? Like Loki. Loki liked to fake his own death. Seriously? Dude. So we’re escaping the ruins of Asgard, and Thanos kills half our people and I’m really freaking out, and then Loki does the noble thing for once in his life. Not faking! Dying! So I say to Thanos, “I’ll kill you for what you’ve done.” And I get my axe from Nidavellir and I make one warning blow… into his heart.

ALL: He has it coming! He has it coming! He only has himself to blame! 

TONY: I met Peter Parker about two years ago and he was a superhero and we hit it off right away. Kid tags along on the spaceship even though I told him not to, pulls some great moves, saves some people. And then I saw him die at Thanos’s hand. “I don’t want to go” he told me. He’s going, my ass! Once the Time Stone business is sorted, I’m gonna beat Thanos into the ground even harder than before. You know, some guys just can’t hold their blood in.

ALL: He has it coming! He has it coming! He took a franchise in its
prime! He got the Gauntlet! He overwrought it! It’ll be murder but not a
crime!

OKOYE: Now, I’m standing in Wakanda following the commands of my King, minding my own business, when in storms a hundred aliens in a murderous rage. “You’re all gonna die!” they say. They were crazy. And they kept screaming “You’re all gonna die!” And then they ran into my spear. They ran into my spear ten times.

ALL:
And since you’ve been there, and since you’ve seen it, I bet that you wanna do the same!

GROOT: I am Groot? I am Groot. I am Groot I am Groot I am Groot. I am Grooooooot.

THOR: Yeah, but are you all dead permanently?

GROOT: We…are…Groot.

ALL: [slower] He has it coming….

GAMORA: My sister Nebula and I grew up together as Thanos’s daughters. But I ran away and joined the Guardians of the Galaxy. There’s six of us, me, Peter, Drax, Rocket, Groot, Mantis, maybe Nebula’s the seventh, who knows. But I was determined to stop Thanos finding the Infinity Stones, by any means necessary. I go with him to Vormir and I burst out laughing when it turns out he has to kill someone he loves to get the Soul Stone. I was in such a state of shock I completely blacked out, I can’t remember a thing. It wasn’t until later, when I noticed the blood on the ground, I even knew I was dead.

ALL: He has it coming! He has it coming! He’s had it coming all along! That purple dickhead! He soon will be dead! How could you tell us that we were wrong?

WANDA: I loved my Vision more than I can possibly say. He had the Mind Stone in his head. Sensitive. A robot. But Thanos was trying to find him, he was constantly trying to find him and along the way he found the Space, Soul, Reality, Power, and Time stones. In the end I lost my love on the battlefield of Wakanda. I saw him as alive… and Thanos saw him dead!

ALL: We’re feeling glum, glum, glum, glum…

….He has it coming! He has it coming! He took a franchise in its
prime! He got the Gauntlet! He overwrought it! It’ll be murder but not a
crime! He has it coming! He has it coming! He’s had it coming all along! Cos if he used us!? And he abused us?! How could you tell us that we were wrong?!

[Fade out]

As the soundtrack violins go mournfully OTT and Gamora’s body lies
lifeless in the snow, Thanos displays grief and tears for the first
time. Yep, Gamora’s death wasn’t even about her: it was about Thanos.
Thanos’s triumph, Thanos’s tears, Thanos’s sadness. A classic fridging.
It even involved ice.

My article about my Infinity War anger is up! It comes on the same day the Russos explained some new things about Gamora’s fate. But I still stand by it.

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