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Steve: Wanda is a kid, she can’t be locked into the facility!
Steve: she needs to come and join the battle instead
Fandom: yasssss team cap!
Tony: Peter is a kid, so I’m going to upgrade his suit to make it more efficient, I’m going to bring him in just to stay on the edges of the fight and do some webbing, I’m going to tell him what to do in case Steve attacks him and how to defend himself. He’s a superpowered kid but I won’t blindly throw him into a fight.
Tony: *immediately sends Spidey home after he gets hit once*
Fandom: evil man has recruited a child :/
(Bonus)
Steve: drops a huge thing on Peter with no previous knowledge that Peter is superpowered, expects him to hold it up, walks away with Peter struggling
Fandom: badass Steve!

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#I’m not sure about the Wanda thing because she’s….I THINK she’s a legal adult? surely she is? #but I’m a bit annoyed that Steve gets no criticism for #…well for hurting a child

I’m with you on the heroes’ need to be monitored. I got a huge thrill out of Black Panther in this film, and I can’t wait for his solo movie, but he’s a political nightmare in Civil War. Here’s a vigilante who ignores national borders and legal protocol as he sets out to murder a superpowered individual for purely personal reasons, based on extremely sketchy evidence (and with no concern for the people or property damaged in the process). Absolutely no one in this film should be backing his play, especially the people calling themselves heroes. His vendetta is exciting, but it isn’t remotely defensible. And it wouldn’t be even if Bucky had killed his dad.

But his irrational behavior is necessary to move the plot along. The fundamental conflict in Civil War isn’t between hero teams, it’s about Superhero Smackdown Fun vs. Behaving Like A Goddamn Grown-Up. If Steve, Tony, et. al. were actually responsible people, they’d talk to the UN about Steve’s entirely sensible concerns about being hampered during global catastrophe, while waiting on votes and debates. They’d use their considerable celebrity and charisma to drive a better solution through diplomacy and politics. They’d insist on fail-safes, to keep the Avengers from being compromised and used like SHIELD was in Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

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#TeamTryHarder. The first few times superhero films were used as allegory to address post-9/11 concerns, it was a surprising, fresh turn. Resonance, ye gods! And Winter Soldier raised concerns over the NSA wiretapping fiasco at the perfect moment — and more importantly, it had a clear point of view on the topic.

Civil War, meanwhile, is content to ask a lot of questions, but never goes remotely near answering them (other than “punching will fix”)“ –

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Sam and Bucky: Why the hate?

eatingcroutons:

shanology:

hannahrhen:

Okay, I’m supposed to be working right now, but I got to get this off my chest and see what you guys think–

So, WHY was Sam being such a dick to Bucky? Yes, it’s funny as hell, but I keep finding myself chewing on it as a characterization choice and trying to decide what it says about Sam.

Because Sam works with emotionally damaged vets, and he has SEEN SOME SHIT. He also knows who Bucky Barnes was, and what he means to Steve. So are we to think that, because Bucky kicked his ass a couple of times, he’s going to be blatantly rude to Bucky? Really? Some have theorized he’s jealous of Steve and Bucky’s friendship, but … I highly doubt that, canonically. (Can make for fun fic, tho.)

What I WANT TO BELIEVE is that, in some cut scene, after they got in the bug, he tried to talk to Bucky, tried to put his VA counselor hat on and have a normal conversation, and Bucky told him to go fuck himself. Maybe repeatedly. Maybe kicking the back of Sam’s seat to get him to shut up. Because the only thing that works for me for Sam’s character is if he gave it the ol’ college try–having *some* kind of convo with Bucky–and Bucky shat upon him, and Sam was like, “Okay, so that’s how it is–good to know,” and turned that aggro up to 11

That is my favorite idea, but I’m curious what other people think?

I go with “Sam gives Bucky shit because he’s treating him like a human being.” Cause honestly, I saw their interactions less as hate or being a dick and more the way a couple of pre-teen siblings get along. As someone with three sibs myself, if one of us did something to piss the other off (”you flushed the toilet while I was showering!”), you’d better believe the petty war would start. That seat would not be getting moved forward, it’d be getting scooted backward as soon as the request was made. And this would go back and forth pretty much until our mom made us stop.

So to me, this is Sam’s way of showing Bucky that he’s not afraid of him, that he trusts him to react like a human being, that he’s not worried Bucky’s gonna turn into a murder-bot if Sam pisses him off. He’s not treating him like a ticking bomb, and at the same time, he’s acknowledging that their history includes some messy stuff. But by reacting to that mess with such little jabs, he’s also downplaying how big the mess was – he’s reducing what happened between them in Winter Soldier to the level of dumb shit that happens between siblings. He’s making it something deserving of petty little paybacks, instead of something Bucky needs to carry a heavy burden of guilt over.

It’s his subtle way of saying, “Okay, you’re on the team now. You’re part of the family, which means I would fight the demons of hell to keep you safe. But that doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to give you shit, just that nobody else gets to touch you. And I still owe you payback for that helicarrier crap, so screw you and your legroom.”

Are people unfamiliar with the concept of banter or something???

I mean seriously. This is one hundred percent Sam treating Bucky as an equal, letting him know there are no genuine hard feelings about what’s happened in the past. And it’s Bucky responding in kind. This is Sam and Bucky respecting and trusting each other enough to joke around over trivial shit. The “You couldn’t have done that earlier?” / “I really hate you.” exchange is them being bros.

steveandsam:


[Putting the wings back on was very difficult] because when you look at Sam’s background, his partner in the Falcon programme got shot down the same way. I actually talked about that with the Russo’s, but it definitely affects him because it brings back all that stuff from his past. – Anthony Mackie