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sarah531:

I do think Peter Quill’s trauma tends to be a bit overlooked in fandom. When you realise how long the list of traumatic things is, and how many of those things are discomfortingly realistic I guess, it kind of… jumps out at you. (trigger warnings: child abuse , child murder and some discussion of rape. spoiler warnings: Infinity War.)

  • Peter was born to Meredith, a human woman, and in GOTG Vol 2 he learns his father was a god called Ego. Ego not only killed millions of Peter’s half-siblings throughout the past millennia, he also killed Meredith when he realised he’d grown to love her too much. (Remind you of anything?) Peter had to watch his mother die of the cancer neither of them knew Ego had given her.
  • The circumstances of Peter’s conception are… I think it’d be fair to say they’re the sort of thing that would haunt you. Meredith had a consenting romantic relationship with Ego and got pregnant with Peter, but Ego neglected to tell her what he really was (beyond “a spaceman”), what he planned to do with her planet, or what he planned to do with her child. Especially considering how young Meredith was – in the opening scene of GOTG Vol 2 the script gives her age as 18; she might have been even younger when she first encountered Ego – she was utterly taken advantage of by him. I honestly don’t know if you’d call it rape by deception, but it seems to be not a million miles off. Meredith’s trauma feeds into Peter’s, too. Had something terrible not happened to her, his mother, he wouldn’t exist. It’s a horrible thing to think about.
  • Peter grew up a bullied kid, being picked on by schoolmates even as his mother was dying in hospital. Watching a parent slowly die of cancer is horrible at any age, and Peter was only eight.
  • Peter’s too scared to hold his mother’s hand as she dies, something that haunts him well into adulthood.
  • Immediately after Meredith dies, Peter is thrown into a world of cutthroat pirates and mercenaries. He can’t go home again, can’t see his grandparents again, and has to learn to steal to earn his keep. He grew up in a secure, safe place and now all that security has gone.
  • Yondu loved Peter, true, but up until the last few minutes of his life he was an awful father. He may have thought that “beating the crap out of [Peter] to teach him to fight” was thoughtful parenting, especially considering his own background, but honestly… it’s abuse.
  • Peter loved Yondu too, despite this, and then had to watch him freeze to death in the depths of space to save him.
  • Ego not only killed Peter’s mother and millions of half-siblings that he’ll never know, he tortures Peter as well. At the same time he starts using Peter as “a battery”, he’s killing people all over the galaxy. In addition to whatever pain being used as a battery causes, Peter might have seen or even felt all those people die.
  • After Ego turns to dust in his hands, Peter closes his eyes and accepts his own death, and would have met it if Yondu hadn’t saved him.
  • The fact that out of millions of Ego kids, Peter was the only one
    who displayed the correct powers and was allowed to survive, that’s got
    to lead to some unbelievable survivor’s guilt. He’s essentially the last survivor of a horrible sort-of-eugenics program.
  • Finally, after all that, Peter embarks on a romantic relationship with Gamora. She dies (or, I fucking hope, ‘dies’) at the hands of her own megalomaniacal god-like father, because he decided he loved her so much that she was a worthy sacrifice. Just like Ego had done with Meredith, after he abused and hurt her and Peter couldn’t stop it. He couldn’t stop it this time either.

Y’know after Vol 2, there was a brief wave of people saying “God, Peter’s been through so much, it’s amazing he hasn’t completely snapped.” That one scene in Infinity War which people are calling him a villain or a man-child over? That was him snapping.

A morning reblog to observe how many times I used the word ‘horrible’ in here when other words would have sufficed. Bad writing! But not inaccurate.

I do think Peter Quill’s trauma tends to be a bit overlooked in fandom. When you realise how long the list of traumatic things is, and how many of those things are discomfortingly realistic I guess, it kind of… jumps out at you. (trigger warnings: child abuse , child murder and some discussion of rape. spoiler warnings: Infinity War.)

  • Peter was born to Meredith, a human woman, and in GOTG Vol 2 he learns his father was a god called Ego. Ego not only killed millions of Peter’s half-siblings throughout the past millennia, he also killed Meredith when he realised he’d grown to love her too much. (Remind you of anything?) Peter had to watch his mother die of the cancer neither of them knew Ego had given her.
  • The circumstances of Peter’s conception are… I think it’d be fair to say they’re the sort of thing that would haunt you. Meredith had a consenting romantic relationship with Ego and got pregnant with Peter, but Ego neglected to tell her what he really was (beyond “a spaceman”), what he planned to do with her planet, or what he planned to do with her child. Especially considering how young Meredith was – in the opening scene of GOTG Vol 2 the script gives her age as 18; she might have been even younger when she first encountered Ego – she was utterly taken advantage of by him. I honestly don’t know if you’d call it rape by deception, but it seems to be not a million miles off. Meredith’s trauma feeds into Peter’s, too. Had something terrible not happened to her, his mother, he wouldn’t exist. It’s a horrible thing to think about.
  • Peter grew up a bullied kid, being picked on by schoolmates even as his mother was dying in hospital. Watching a parent slowly die of cancer is horrible at any age, and Peter was only eight.
  • Peter’s too scared to hold his mother’s hand as she dies, something that haunts him well into adulthood.
  • Immediately after Meredith dies, Peter is thrown into a world of cutthroat pirates and mercenaries. He can’t go home again, can’t see his grandparents again, and has to learn to steal to earn his keep. He grew up in a secure, safe place and now all that security has gone.
  • Yondu loved Peter, true, but up until the last few minutes of his life he was an awful father. He may have thought that “beating the crap out of [Peter] to teach him to fight” was thoughtful parenting, especially considering his own background, but honestly… it’s abuse.
  • Peter loved Yondu too, despite this, and then had to watch him freeze to death in the depths of space to save him.
  • Ego not only killed Peter’s mother and millions of half-siblings that he’ll never know, he tortures Peter as well. At the same time he starts using Peter as “a battery”, he’s killing people all over the galaxy. In addition to whatever pain being used as a battery causes, Peter might have seen or even felt all those people die.
  • After Ego turns to dust in his hands, Peter closes his eyes and accepts his own death, and would have met it if Yondu hadn’t saved him.
  • The fact that out of millions of Ego kids, Peter was the only one
    who displayed the correct powers and was allowed to survive, that’s got
    to lead to some unbelievable survivor’s guilt. He’s essentially the last survivor of a horrible sort-of-eugenics program.
  • Finally, after all that, Peter embarks on a romantic relationship with Gamora. She dies (or, I fucking hope, ‘dies’) at the hands of her own megalomaniacal god-like father, because he decided he loved her so much that she was a worthy sacrifice. Just like Ego had done with Meredith, after he abused and hurt her and Peter couldn’t stop it. He couldn’t stop it this time either.

Y’know after Vol 2, there was a brief wave of people saying “God, Peter’s been through so much, it’s amazing he hasn’t completely snapped.” That one scene in Infinity War which people are calling him a villain or a man-child over? That was him snapping.

sarah531:

(more infinity war spoilers)

Oh absolutely Peter Quill makes a mistake in this movie by allowing rage to overtake him at the last possible moment, but he doesn’t really make any more mistakes than any other MCU hero made in this movie/the leadup to it. And what happened might well have happened anyway without him making said mistake? So no, he’s not the other villain of the movie, AV Club! Jeez! And also a slight ‘ugh’.

I’ve become very protective of Peter since GOTG2. He’s an abused kid who grew up with nothing, lost so much, and has to live out the rest of his life knowing he was essentially the product of a megalomaniac god’s creepy breeding program. Now he realises that Thanos has sacrificed Gamora in almost the exact same way his father sacrificed his mother? Of course he’s going to react like that! It wasn’t done out of malice, just pure in-the-moment rage for everything that’d been taken from him.

(And yeah, I doubt that the plan would have worked even if Peter hadn’t snapped. Mantis is strong but Thanos is nigh-on indestructible.)

(more infinity war spoilers)

Oh absolutely Peter Quill makes a mistake in this movie by allowing rage to overtake him at the last possible moment, but he doesn’t really make any more mistakes than any other MCU hero made in this movie/the leadup to it. And what happened might well have happened anyway without him making said mistake? So no, he’s not the other villain of the movie, AV Club! Jeez! And also a slight ‘ugh’.

zivitz:

enigma731:

do I need to make, like, a ‘reasons gamora will be fine’ tag for people to look at on my blog

Right? I feel like maybe I’m just too used to Marvel comics for this to be concerning for me. I feel like fandom needs a mantra à la Incredibles: when everyone’s dead, no one is.

I’d like to see that post. I’ve read interviews and the like which heavily imply she’ll be back, but I just have no faith anymore, and it really sucks.

Some more Infinity War thoughts (still very negative, sorry, and still very spoilery)

  • Virtually every man in this film cannot help but get into a dick-measuring contest whenever he meets another man. Quill and Thor, Tony and Strange, Quill and Tony… okay, that was it I suppose, but it got tired real fast. All three of them should’ve evolved beyond that by now.
  • Where was Nakia?
  • It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for Steve to watch Bucky turn to dust as though something mildly interesting is happening and little else. I can’t believe this movie was written by the same people who wrote Winter Soldier.
  • I actually did genuinely enjoy seeing Peter Dinklage. Yay, Peter Dinklage!

  • Where was Valkyrie?
  • Scotland was strangely empty. Probably because a horde of angry Glaswegians would have taken Thanos down in minutes and then there’d be no movie.
  • Where was May? Not even a mention of her from Peter? Some resolution to the ending of Homecoming?
  • “Swear to me on your mother” was about the only dramatic line in this movie that I really loved.
  • Thor gets a replacement eye for no relevant reason, Quill mocks Thor in a throwaway line for not being able to keep both his eyes in the first place, and almost every substantial line from Rocket is more of the ableist “steal a prosthetic” nonsense. Great going, guys.
  • Oh, Gamora’s death probably will be undone, if only because Guardians of the Galaxy 3 will be a much harder sell without an A-list female lead. And I’ll rejoice when that happens, but I’ll still be angry about how this movie treated her.

If Last Man on Earth ends up getting cancelled on a cliffhanger it will just about finish me off fiction-wise. Infinity War did what it did, Star Wars is in a depressing place, Doctor Who won’t restart again for ages, I sound chipper but man I’m glum. See? See?! I just tried to find a gif of Captain Holt saying “Everything is garbage, never love anything” and I couldn’t find one. EVERYTHING IS GARBAGE, NEVER LOVE ANYTHING

God, the difference between GOTG Vol 2 and Infinity War is just, vast– (spoilers)

GOTG2 is all about overcoming abuse, breaking cycles of abuse, learning and growing and loving your family. And – this is the first thing I liked about it – it makes it so clear that any form of treating people like things is wrong, the narrative has no sympathy for Ego, why does he deserve any? It’s a hopeful movie, full of good things. Yondu dies, but he dies on his own terms doing something out of love. Everyone goes forward into the future with what seems to be better things ahead of them-

And then Infinity War decided, “you know what would be a really good idea, how about we spend a whole movie trying to make you feel sorry for a genocidal abuser and kill off a beloved Guardian to serve his story?”

It’s like the fuckin’ evil twin of GOTG2! That movie left me feeling upbeat and hopeful! IW has done…dramatically the opposite.