kylo ren

One thing about Luke and Kylo in TLJ:

Everyone’s saying “How could Luke possibly think for even a second about killing his own nephew?!” but, unless I missed something HUGE in that movie… he did not? He says he saw the darkness in Kylo and immediately turned his lightsaber on in pure instinct, which is very, very different to “wanted to kill him”. S’like… y’know that old movie trope where Person A is in a mildly menacing situation, and they hear a noise and turn around and point their gun ready to fire (or in some cases actually fire) only to have Person B yell “Don’t shoot, it’s me!” It was like that.

And even then Luke felt guilty about it!

drakyndra:

sleemo:

“But I don’t think it’s very interesting if the whole story is just ‘Will Kylo get his comeuppance?’ He’s a more complicated character than that and I think he deserves a more complicated story than that. I don’t see the point of trying to get behind his mask and learn more about him if all we’re going to learn is ‘Yeah, he’s just an evil bad guy that needs to be killed.’”

Rian Johnson

Adding these tags because I loved them: #if he was just gonna get killed off they wouldn’t have made him be a skywalker#they’d have just done an old-school disposable eu villain thing and make him bad jedi student 17

sleemo:

“In this story, I think Rey and Kylo are almost like a dual protagonist. You identify with Rey, but also you identify with Kylo in a way that you never did with Vader. I know I do.

Because if these movies are about adolescence, Kylo is that anger of adolescence and that rejection of the parents, and wanting to screw your dad; and that’s something that all of us, to some degree, can identify with.

And the idea of there being a bad guy who you identify with as much as you do the protagonist in some way, that’s really interesting.”

Rian Johnson, SciFiNow Magazine

eirianerisdar:

Y’all can relax about that whole Rey and Kylo “I need someone to show me my place in all this” and holding-out-hand thing from the trailer because they’re two completely different scenes (not that it matters if it were one scene, because Rey could pull a Luke-and-Vader-on-Bespin sort of thing)

When Rey says, “I need someone to show me my place in all this,” she is still in the outfit she went to find Luke in. You can tell by her high collar and the thickness of the material:

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The light source is static as well, constant, even, likely a lamp of some sort, and the set of her shoulders and neck seems to indicate she’s sitting down. She’s most likely saying this line in Luke’s hut, explaining why she went to find him.

In contrast, that shot of Kylo holding out his hand has a mobile, flickering light source somewhere off to his left, and while that seems to match up to Rey’s right, the light is nowhere near steady, and all the bits of flaming debris falling down behind him would have caused the lighting to change around Rey, if she was really there.

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And you can see Kylo meeting eyes with someone standing opposite him, while Rey’s sitting down.

So I’m all for that idea that Kylo’s holding out his hand to Leia. Even if it were Rey, it wouldn’t be immediately after she said that line. Sneaky, Lucasfilm.

jedi-kill3r:

I feel like almost everyone is in that rehabilitation state [at the beginning of The Last Jedi]. You know, I don’t think that patricide is all that it’s cracked up to be. Maybe that’s where Kylo Ren is starting from. His external scar is probably as much an internal one.

“He’s very moody and intense,” Mark Hamill said. “I remember saying to Adam, ‘I don’t know how you work, or your technique. But, at some point, you were my nephew. I probably bounced you on my knee. I probably babysat for you. There’s that side, and now we’re both estranged from the Skywalker family.’”

The 33-year-old actor doesn’t give away any specifics, obviously, but he does make a comment that is interesting when asked by host Willie Geist if fans “will be happy with what happens to Kylo.”

Driver responds, “God, I hope. I think it will be hopefully unexpected.”