star wars

thessalies:

I guess one of my favorite things about the Jedi Apprentice books is the acknowledgement that teachers are also human beings with character flaws of their own to overcome. 

Far too often in ‘kid goes to magic school’ stories teachers are this weird combination of perfect and useless; the Hogwarts staff spring instantly to mind of course but it happens all the time and really rubs me the wrong way. In JA, half of each story is told from Qui-Gon’s perspective, and we see his doubts and frustrations and understand why he struggles as a teacher.

The series is just as much about Obi-Wan teaching Qui-Gon how to be a better person as it is Qui-Gon teaching Obi-Wan how to be a better Jedi. And then when I rewatch TPM and hear Qui-Gon say “you are a wiser man than I” I believe him and understand why he’s saying it.

And it’s not just Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. We also see the relationships between Bant and Tahl, between Siri and Adi Gallia, as parallels and foils to that main relationship. (So many relationships between female characters eeeee.) We get other teachers giving Qui-Gon advice or telling him off when he’s messing up. It’s just… really refreshing to me?

panharmonium:

What comic is this? I desperately want to read it.

Hey sarah531!  It’s this comic, which is supposed to tell the story about Xanatos leaving the Order.  I don’t actually really like it very much at all, particularly the latter half?  But the first part has Tahl, which suckered me into reading it. X)

Ah, thank you very much! I discovered it hiding away in my comics folder from, er, the last time I had a Star Wars/JA phase… :D

panharmonium:

thorinss:

Pride and sadness flooded Qui-Gon as he pictured Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi. He looked forward to the day that the two of them would work side by side as Jedi Knights, but with this thought no image came. Qui-Gon’s chest tightened. He was so proud of Obi-Wan’s path, of his achievements. Why couldn’t he see him as a Knight? Perhaps I do not want to see the boy grow up, he thought.

I love how everyone who tags this is always like #OMG WHEN HE TOUCHES OBI-WAN’S FACE OH NOOOOO (it’s okay, me too guys, me too…X)

More seriously, though – seeing this pop up on my dash again made me realize something that I’ve never really articulated before: that as far as I’m concerned, this little editorial/directorial/acting decision was the most important thing TPM ever did to characterize Qui-Gon.  My whole interpretation of him as a character was defined by the half-second where he reaches up to touch his student’s face.

It seems silly, maybe, but I just see it as an example of how a tiny, seemingly insignificant thing can change the whole tenor of a scene, flip the scene’s meaning completely.  Whenever I imagine this scene without that gesture, I know without a doubt that the omission of that simple, single touch would have changed my entire opinion of Qui-Gon’s character.  Because even I have to admit, without that touch, this scene really does play like ‘dang, this guy really is oblivious and kind of terrible and wow really?  really, you’re gonna use your last moments on earth for this, to ask your Padawan to basically give up his whole life for a project you were championing?  ok then, wow…”  

But. The way it was actually filmed, it’s not that.  It’s not like that.  The inclusion of one tiny, fleeting gesture turns this scene into something else, into something that isn’t about manipulation or insensitivity – into something that is about the wrenching conflict of duty and love; where duty is the cold reality that there is no time, that the Force is ringing everywhere with train the boy, a resounding call, louder than a bomb, and Qui-Gon is the only one listening, the one who has to see it done.  The Force is howling YOU MUST, and so he must, he has to use this time this way – but Qui-Gon is still a rebel, and that small gesture, those fingers brushing against Obi-Wan’s face – that gesture is Qui-Gon’s last, wistful protest.  Yes, he submits, yes, he concedes; yes, he will use his last moments to place a lifelong burden onto his Padawan’s already bowed and stricken shoulders, but not without this, not without this one connection, not without this brief touch, not without one aching moment to linger over all the things he will never get to see, on everything bright and beaming he knows Obi-Wan is going to become, on every brilliant and beautiful thing he knows Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi is going to accomplish.  Even as unforgiving Duty tightens its grip, and Qui-Gon does what is required of him – still all he has is love, is regret, is oh, my child, is every single thing that Duty has mandated he not be able to say. Duty binds his tongue and it doesn’t matter – the words say anakin, but the gesture says obi-wan, says child of mine, says pride and wonder and longing and love and oh my god if you think I will ever be okay with this moment then you have been sadly misled.

This is great meta and I’m so glad I found it, because that touch is so important to not just TPM but to the whole saga, I think. If you don’t believe that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan loved each other, that they had a real father-son relationship, it makes so much of the other stuff in the Star Wars story of fathers and sons and love fufilled and love denied just…lose a little of its resonance, I think. (After all, the parallels between this shot and this shot probably aren’t a coincidence.) Oh, Star Wars. Your dialogue may be (mostly) terrible but SO MUCH ELSE WORKS. SO WELL. Whether it was on purpose or not.

(I remember hearing once – like THIRTEEN YEARS AGO – that the touch was actually Liam’s idea. I have no idea if that’s true but I sort of suspect it is.)

panharmonium:

so i was actually mesmerized by that video of all six SW films playing simultaneously, and i skimmed through it

and let me just say there are a few things that hurt me.

for example

the fact that a screencap like this is allowed to exist:

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the fact that a screencap like THIS is allowed to exist (do you see that’s Dooku, Qui-Gon, and Obi-Wan in the same shot CAN WE NOT)

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the fact that THIS, TOO exists:

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the fact that Padme is getting up and being a leader at the same time she’s dying:

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the fact that Vader’s helmet clicks on at the exact moment that Obi-Wan tells Yoda “I will train Anakin.”

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the fact that padme and qui-gon’s deaths overlap (CAN WE STOP KILLING EVERYONE OBI-WAN CARES ABOUT CAN WE NOT)

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the fact that the iconic “Vader rising” scene coincides with Obi-Wan making his promise to Anakin:

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honestly there are so many things that are not okay in this video i don’t even know where to start