harry osborn

Harry wondered when he had gotten used to this. -windona

It was a really strange sensation, being used to being… happy. It was confusing, but it was sure as hell better than what he’d left behind.

“Sure, babes,” he said down the phone, “I’ll order us some takeout.”

“Thanks babes,” said Peter. “Also, don’t call me ‘babes’, babes.”

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Character: Harry Osborn/Green Goblin II

From: Spider-Man comics

Representation: Mental illness, drug addiction, abuse survivor

Their Importance: Harry’s a character I’m intensely grateful exists in the form he does. Back in 1971, when there were very strict rules about what could and couldn’t be shown in comics, the Spider-Man writers decided to do a story on the dangers of drugs. Peter Parker’s best friend/the Green Goblin’s son Harry would be the character pressured into them. The Comics Code Authority said no. Stan Lee and company published it anyway.

The result ended up taking Harry places I’m sure no-one envisioned back then. A couple years after the initial storyline he relapsed, to the horror of his friends, and was diagnosed with schizophrenia. Directly on the heels of that came the infamous story where Gwen Stacy died at the hands of Harry’s father, and then everything just plain sucked in-universe for a while.

But (and this is condensing several decades’ worth of stuff down!) Harry, even when wearing the costume of the Green Goblin, was pretty much always treated sympathetically. In 1991 came the very hard-hitting and very very good The Child Within, which detailed just how much abuse Harry suffered at the hands of his father and how much that tied into his mental state. [Warning if you seek it out: it also involves sexual abuse, although not in relation to Harry.] In that story Harry is goaded to murder Peter by a hallucination of his father, but he can’t bring himself to, which of course says a lot about him.

Again, condensing decades of history down, Harry committed some more acts of supervillainy before finding redemption saving Peter from certain death and then dying himself. But, this being comics, in 2007 he came back! His mental health issues and addiction issues aren’t gone, but are still being portrayed sympathetically! Four for you, Marvel writers. You go, Marvel writers.

I love Harry so much. As a mentally ill person (though I don’t have schizophrenia) it was so great to see a mentally ill person in a comic have ups and downs and lashings-outs and still have heroic moments and loving friends. One of my favourite moments in any Spider-Man comic is when Peter overhears someone at a party call Harry a “blithering psychopath”, so overturns the punch bowl on their head as revenge.

Issues: This all tends to get a bit lost in adaptations of the Spider-Man story. The 2002-2007 movies made a concession to it at least by having Harry become an alcoholic and hear voices in his head, but The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is generally considered a bit of an ableist mess when it comes to both Harry (who kills Gwen in this version) and Jamie Foxx’s Electro. It remains to be seen what the new MCU Spider-Man movies will do if/when they feature him. 

Thank you to @sarah531 for the write up! 

Why is it that the Spider-man comics do more to acknowledge Harry Osborn’s mental health issues than most of the tumblr based fandom? That almost never happens with canon vs fanon.

windona:

Honestly, I think it’s a few factors:

1) Harry has paranoid schizophrenia, and it can be really ugly. Tumblr fandoms usually recognize PTSD, depression, or some anxiety disorders.

2) Harry’s not usually depicted as attractive. And when he is, it’s usually not with the paranoid schizophrenia he had in the comics. The Raimi films used alcoholism, the USM version didn’t really use mental illness, and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was terrible about Harry’s character. This ties into shipping as well; Parksborn doesn’t seem as popular as canon ships or as Spideypool.

3) Harry can be an ass sometimes, and his mental illness really can’t be romanticized. Props to the writers for doing this, but he can lash out and be difficult to be around in the comics when he’s suffering from a breakdown.

Honestly, I feel like it’s a shame. Harry Osborn is one of the few comic characters who actually gets treated for his mental illness, and lives a decent life while still having a few ups and downs. And it’s not a stereotypical comics mental illness either. It’s a shame he doesn’t get more love.

Sarah what’s your headcanon for… just… Norman’s death and what on earth Harry thinks happened, did he know his dad was the goblin? how do you get from “impaled by the golbin’s scooter thing” to “spiderman killed him”?? -taiey

aaah you’re watching it! I’m loving this mini liveblog

Well, in the last movie Spider-Man returns Norman’s body to his house minus any Goblin equipment but with a very large stab wound through him, and Harry sees him with the body and (not liking Spider-Man much anyway) decides he killed him

Why he doesn’t jump to the very obvious conclusion (my awful dad was this awful supervillain!) let’s put it down to denial. :(

obsidianwolfx:

The above is Normie Osborn’s near death experience from spidergirl 63. I just felt like posting it since I was just reminded of how the current folks in charge of 616 spiderman decided to make Liz into Harry’s evil ex loyal to Norman.

It just rather clearly illustrates how badly Marvel has mishandled spiderman the last few decades. I mean neither spidergirl nor Ultimate spiderman were perfect titles but even at their worst they were far and away better than anything that’s happened in 616 in decades.

They did WHAT to Liz?!?!?!?!

Also, I love this.