fandom

On ships and labels

I saw a post the other day about how shipping Rey with Space Nazi
Kylo was totally wrong but shipping her with Also A Space Nazi Phasma
was totally a-ok because it’s shipped differently! It involves redemption arcs and headcanons that she was brainwashed
into killing all those people! – and it just made me think about how
very, very little ‘shipping’ actually means as a thing.

[It’s probably fair to mention around here that
I’ve actually never been 100% comfortable with calling the First Order
‘space Nazis’, even though everyone does, but that could be a whole
‘nother post]

Anyway, looking at wider fandom, shipping culture is just weird and confusing at best. Like…saying ‘I ship X/Y’ could mean any one (or more) of so many things:

  1. This ship isn’t canon, but I think it will be in the future. And I love this story’s writers, so I ship whatever they ship!
  2. This ship is queerbaiting, very blatantly, but it’s the closest thing I have to representation in any of the shows I watch so I’m going to root for them despite knowing doing so is pointless. Thanks, writers.
  3. I think X could plausibly fall in love with Y. Y loving them back is massively OOC/problematic in general but I’m fascinated at what X’s perspective must be like. I’m a sucker for unrequited love.
  4. This relationship is abusive and portrayed as a bad thing in canon, but I’m fascinated by it, and write their relationship as abusive in fanfiction. I want to know it could ever have got to that point, y’know?
  5. This relationship is abusive and portrayed as a bad thing in canon, but I
    shall portray it as something light and fluffy in my fanfiction as a form of wish fulfillment, completely ignoring canon.
  6. This relationship is abusive and portrayed as a bad thing in canon, but I
    shall portray it as something light and fluffy in my fanfiction as a form of wish fulfillment, writing around canon. For example, this abusive husband was only abusive because he was possessed by an alien at the time, see? That’s my headcanon!
  7. This relationship is abusive and portrayed as a bad thing in canon, but I
    shall portray it as something light and fluffy in my fanfiction because I think they’re both smokin’ hot and I want to see them doing it. No story, just sex.
  8. This relationship is abusive and portrayed as a bad thing in canon, but I
    shall portray it as something light and fluffy in my fanfiction because that pisses off people whom I don’t like.

It’s impossible to (for lack of a better word) police any of that! When all of those things fall under the same umbrella, there’s no way of telling Person #4 apart from Person #8. Then there’s all the other questions. Why are you shipping that as a form of wish fulfillment? Oh, it’s none of my business? But ‘I ship X/Y’ is on your blog, it’s my business now. What do you mean, no it isn’t? And so on. Is it okay to ship Rey/Ben Solo if you’ve developed a whole alternative universe where Kylo Ren is actually Ben Solo’s evil clone, Been Solo? (Ahem.) Is it okay to ship Pewey if Major Dewey is a woman now? Enjonine if Eponine is a man? Should I tag this fic [victim’s name]/[abuser’s name] if the story is about how the victim came to terms with their abuse, or is that in some way romanticizing it?

How far does transformative work go when everyone has a right to transform it? What bits have you chosen to transform, and why, and are you sure you’re not influenced in any way by all those various insidious forces in and around society? Did you see the name of an unrealistic, problematic ship and take it as a challenge? Did you want to write this terrible thing well, like the next Vladimir Nabokov?

There aren’t really easy answers (or any answers) to any of those questions. But I do think we could use some more…I don’t know, shipping subgroups, I guess. Like,
you could write a hopelessly OOC Star Wars story where Rey decides what she
really needs in her life is a little more mass murder and she ditches
her friends, swoons into the arms of Kylo Ren without question and never
looks back, or you could write a careful, considered story with a feminist message where Kylo Ren realizes he feels something
for Rey, realizes she’ll never love him back, seeks to turn her to the
dark side, fails, observes her being happy with Finn, ends up stabbing
himself with his lightsaber just as he once stabbed his father, is
remembered by Rey only as a pathetic man whose concept of love, even,
was hopelessly warped…

It’s just that both of those fics would be tagged ‘Reylo’. Which makes NO SENSE.

everyone say the most Web 1.0 thing they ever did i’ll start

eclecticmuses:

dwarfvania:

charredasperity:

oddbagel:

x-cetra:

esteefee:

itswalky:

aijoskobi:

molly23:

jadegordon:

dovsherman:

prokopetz:

bogleech:

dragondicks:

flygex-eatin-on-softies:

ryanhatesthis:

laughterkey:

kayinnasaki:

darkbeastcaarl:

queenlyflesh:

lolman9000:

literal-ghost:

adriofthedead:

hamigakimomo:

numboars:

usbdongle:

one time i downloaded a MIDI of the Friends theme song off of someone’s Angelfire page

I tried to illegally download an MP3 of Simple and Clean but my mom picked up the phone and disconnected our internet.

I made an anime fansite on one of my pet’s pages on neopets.com and every single asset and art on it was direct linked/stolen from other websites because i didnt know how to upload images to the internet myself

I owned and used a .zip drive

I made an anime fan page on Angelfire that just had a bunch of gifs I found for things I liked INCLUDING those ancient ass gifs of a) Pikachu running, b) Pikachu balancing on a Pokeball, c) odd dancing Raichu, and a bunch of Rurouni Kenshin screenshots.

The background was set to black, but had that falling cherry blossoms gif over it.

The font was gold colored and it was COMIC SANS.

i made a fanfiction shrine that was up for two days before getting taken over by middle eastern hackers

the first time i ever used internet explorer i used it to go to the nintendo power website in order to get the toll free number to call nintendo and ask them how to get the raiden magicite in ff3. (otherwise known as ff6)

I downloaded MP3s from AOL chatroom mp3 bots. Also cgshrines was my original danbooru. (IT’S STILL AROUND, AMAZINGLY)

I used to watch a music video of one of my fave low-key boy bands (No Authority, what up?) on their interactive CD in the Mac Lab after school.

I once made a Kingdom Hearts AMV set to Good Charlotte’s “Lifestyles Of The Rich And Famous” on Windows Movie Maker and uploaded it to Kazaa.

I had a Gorillaz fanpage that had a built in chat feature that I used to talk to my friends while in computer class because other messaging clients were disabled.  I was found out pretty quickly.

I actually printed out the neopets permission form for my parents to sign and then physically mailed it to them bc scanning and emailing it was beyond the realm of my ability

 I’m 99% positive that I was literally the first person ever on the internet to put screenshots of “Invader Zim” on a webpage.

I screencapped this during the first airing of the first episode and put it on my geocities homepage with a few dozen others before the episode had even ended.

That is its original size.

Streaming video wasn’t really an accessible thing but I was able to do this because I made my parents buy me an expensive device called a “TV card,” which allowed you to screw your cable television cord into your computer to watch live tv on your PC. The sound didn’t work, so I had to turn a real TV on in another room with the volume blaring if I still wanted to watch these television premieres while I ripped my exclusive cutting edge image galleries.

I also had a digimon page and was very proud of some of the moments I managed to screencap. There wasn’t any record feature so you had to be QUICK!

My first website had a different autolooping MIDI file on every page; one of them even used “The Macarena”. I used Internet Explorer’s proprietary <bgsound> tag so that there was no player UI and it couldn’t be turned off.

(In my defence, that was over 20 years ago, and a consensus hadn’t yet emerged that websites with audio were the Devil. It was a different time.)

I built the first website to show preview images of the KiSS dolls I found on an anime FTP site, a website which I later grew into the Big KiSS Page, leading to the popularization of KiSS dolls in western fandom. It led to a brief mention in Wired and my name being temporarily on the Wikipedia entry for KiSS dolls. I also made one of the first animated FKiSS dolls.

I also made the musteline sprites for Furcadia.

Oh, and I maintained one of the most popular and over-built player classes on LambdaMOO (where I was “APHiD”).

And I made some ANSI animations of Ranma ½ by hand.

Oh! And I made the first bendable hair for the original Sims game by building the first tool to give third-party creators access to the Sims character blend data.

When this first came around all the stuff in my head was just how connected anything I did back then had some root with Dove – so long before we even met or knew of each other!

I got my birds & bees talk from a CD-ROM textbook.

It took two hours to download the teaser trailer for Star Wars Episode I.

i put my comic strips up on a geocities page, an iteration of media which would later on be dubbed “webcomics”

Converted my gopher menu to an NCSA Mosaic page. It had an animated title exploiting an html bug.  Also, animated GIFs for icons. Remember those? hahah how quaint. But those went away in favor of Flash animations.  And then I helped work on the very first HTML 2.0 layer animations for Netscape. Oh, how far we’ve come. I hear animated GIFs are quite popular with the kiddos these days.

Yay, Gopher to Mosaic! I had to do that too, for the Perseus Project (it’s still around!) *Hi5s oldies* At first our homepage was just a long list of links snd some ugly gifs, until I consolidated it into an imagemap-based “dashboard” whose design I shamelessly adapted from LCARS.

Web -1.0: Searching college nets with Veronica and Archie. Posting Doctor Who fanfic on a coolege VAX bbs. Reading a roundrobin Doctor Who fanfic called Lime Jello that was passed around by mailing 3.25 floppy discs between writers. Performing an arcane conversion ritual to send email from the Bryn Mawr/Haverford/UPenn regional network across a bridge to someone on the University of Virginia’s regional network. Noticing when our IN% email addresses changed to the format name@such-and-such, which was a sign that our small regional network had hooked up with bitnet. Building a website for the classics department, and building my first personal homepage with someplace.edu/~username in the URL, which was fairly common back then.

We would get AOL installation disks in the mail and I would use the free trial that came with them every time. Eventually, we started getting calls from AOL asking us if we wanted to become actual members. They would always ask for me, but I wasn’t 18 so they couldn’t speak to me. I also looked at porn on Kazaa.

I had to wait up to an hour for my dial up modem to load the page I printed all my Gameshark cheats off of, most of that loading time was to load the “CONGRATULATIONS, YOU WON!” popup.

I briefly had the attention of my entire fandom because I had three entire unused LJ codes and most of the authors in our fandoms still hadn’t been able to get on and start porting their fic from the mailing list archive hells it was in. 

I roleplayed in the Star Wars Cantina on the Webchat Broadcasting System.

Also I’m fairly sure I was one of the first people ever to download and install Napster. When I found it, the website was FrontPage 95-tastic with clip art and bright blue and red Comic Sans text.

Lol if u were around back innthe old days of trek slash u have to be old as dirt, what are u still doing here writing fanfiction, get a life.

out-there-on-the-maroon:

shadowmaat:

dduane:

teaberryblue:

thorduna:

ohfreckle:

So what, are you planning on becoming a boring old fart with no hobbies or interests? Without us “old people” you wouldn’t even know what fanfiction is. 

hoooooly balls

no offence to young talents (and i use this word for a reason – young writers might surely have talent, but not experience) but i’d like to see anon enjoy a fandom where all the fic was produced strictly by 15 yr olds

and the irony of this being a reaction to a post/piece of history that clearly shows who are the people that kickstarted fandom as we know it today.. wow

Okay wow.  

I think a lot of younger fans have no idea what fandom was like before the internet.  Sure, you probably hear stories, and not to make “I walked fifteen miles both ways uphill to read my fanfic and I LIKED IT” sort of statements, but y’all realize that if it weren’t for the people who had come before, fandom wouldn’t be here, not in the incarnation it is now, not something that belongs to and is created by fans who exercise a fair amount of freedom to remix and re-imagine and rebuild the worlds we love, right?

When you talk to older fans, you’re most often talking to women who might have been the only woman in the fan spaces they had access to, who traveled to conventions or found ways to exchange letters in the regular mail with other fans.  You’re talking to people who had to bring their fic to the copy shop and print it out and mail it, who risked printers refusing to print it, who risked things getting damaged or destroyed. 

You’re talking about people who fought to get their slashfic printed.  Actually fought, had shouting matches, received threats, had manuscripts destroyed in malice, because it wasn’t acceptable then, in so many ways. 

You’re talking to people who, when the internet was still in its primordial state, risked C&D letters from companies and creators who tried to protect their copyrights with the most iron of fists, who saw every fan creation as an assault.

Again, you’re talking to people who fought, who moved from web host to web host as the people hosting their servers were threatened with lawsuits.  

These are things that happened, and, what, you’re saying the people who lived and fought to make fandom what it is today, to make it a space where people can talk about and write and draw more or less anything they want and find other people who want it to didn’t live their lives valuably?

They gave you this.  They fought sexism and homophobia and draconian ideas about rights.  They traveled miles and spent their own money for this.  

I’m not yet an Old Fan, but I’m not a Young Fan either, and I’m so fucking grateful to every fan who came before me for creating the place where I can do the things I love and be myself and where my experiences in fandom are respected by my colleagues and the people I care about.

These are the people you should be asking to tell you all about their lives, to share their experiences; these are the people you should be learning from and absorbing as much as you can from if they’re generous enough to share.  These are the people who can give us hope that even though we’re still fighting a lot of things, like companies who’ve now realized our value trying to capitalize unfairly on the work of fan artists, like continued sexist and anti-queer attitudes prevail and how they reflect on people’s attitudes toward fanwork and its value.  
If you’re telling someone to get a life, if you don’t think a life in and of fandom is valuable, you’ve fallen for those lies; you’re discounting not only their value, but your own value as a fan.  

Don’t let them do that.  

AS OLD AS DIRT AND PROUD OF IT.

Imagine if you had to give up all fandom things at 22. No watching nerdy shows or movies, no reading SF&F, no writing fics or making fanart or browsing through it on the internet. Cash in or throw out all your toys, your merch, your Batman bedsheets and wookiee feet slippers. No nerdy t-shirts. Nothing. Delete soundtracks off your ipod. Get rid of that personally autgraphed pic of Leonard Nimoy that you stood in line for two hours to get. You’re over the age of 22 then you need to grow the hell up and get a life.

What a sad, pathetic, empty life that would be if you were forced to give up the things you love because you were deemed “too old.” And what a sad, pathetic, bitter little jerk you’d have to be to try and someone else what they are and aren’t allowed to like based on something as arbitrary as physical age.

If some of us are “too old,” some of you still need to grow the hell up.

Kind of a sidenote but who the hell would write for tv shows anymore, btw? 

Like the entire way you get a job writing for tv is by writing formatted fanfic, called a “spec script.” And there are few people under the age of 28 getting those jobs. 

Not to mention everyone directing, writing, producing, designing, and acting in franchises these days. Used to be they kept longtime fans out of that process, now it’s the norm to get a longtime fan to be in charge of a franchise reboot. 

Weird how men are often given a free pass to still enjoy the things they liked as kids, but women are urged to give up all their geek interests, and indeed their careers, to “grow up” and become mothers. Geeky adult men can make their passions a career, but apparently geeky adult women are “too old” to enjoy the things they love and need to “grow up.”

Fuck that noise. 

agentsnark:

omnicat:

jujubiest:

I weirdly love that there are crotchety fandom elders around who say shit like “in my day, (insert fandom term) meant this specifically, but now you kids just use it to mean any old thing.”

It seriously gives fandom such a sense of heritage and family, like yes grandma, tell me more about how you had to write fic uphill both ways in the snow when you were my age.

I am that crotchety fandom elder

Me too, lets go read a Lemon

redrackham87:

does anyone else think about how fandoms are like cities?

you got your big, bustling ones that are really diverse and busy, maybe a little hard to navigate and full of crime, good areas and bad areas. the locals know the hot spots and how to get around

then the mid-range towns with big city attitudes even though they’re not big cities, a few local hubs of activity, the crazy dude ranting about stuff on the street corner who makes people uncomfortable

and then the small spot towns where everybody knows everybody, you can’t go out without seeing somebody you know, and there’s only one grocery store

bisexualdavidjacobs:

aggressivewhenstartled:

bakasara:

katbelleinthedark:

gokuma:

arkhaeology:

Does anyone remember fanfiction from like 2001 to 2004 tho?

-wacky, highly out of character ‘sleepovers’ with the villains of the series

-not bothering to research the culture the series originated from (we live in Japan but for some reason we’re celebrating a westernized version of Christmas?)

-sugar highs??? the entire cast has eaten sugar and now randomness ensues!!1!

-really surreal oneshots taking a completely illogical idea to the highest possible level played completely for laughs (re: maybe Harry was so good at flying because He Was A Broom All Along)

-user guides for characters (as if they’re adoptable robots)

-disclaimer at the beginning of the story, end of the story,
used as page breaks in the middle of the story I DO NOT OWN THIS PLEASE
DON’T SUE I’M DIRT POOR

-author’s notes at the beginning of the story, end of
the story, used as page breaks in the middle of the story, LOL I WROTE
THIS AT ONE IN THE MORNING PLEASE REVIEW

-nutshell/condensed retellings of the series, again usually humorous

-AUs where everything except the main character’s names are completely different that have no real connections to the series (High School AUs are EVERYWHERE)

-The writer’s favourite character isn’t dead and the rest of the cast questions it once and then never mentions it again

-the writer talking to the characters in script form before the story actually starts

I don’t think I had Internet in 2001

I had. The fic of that era IS bonkers.

Though high school AUs are still everywhere.

I first read fanfic in 2005 and it was still like this.

Oh god I wrote these.

Quizilla choose-your-own-adventure fanfics tho

Don’t forget songfics!

thekoontzy:

traumachu:

it’s so strange stumbling upon old livejournal communities of once-popular fandoms, that have long since been abandoned…it’s like coming upon a fandom graveyard – or more accurately, stumbling upon fandom Pompeii – these were the people who once lived in this town, these were the old well-known usernames, these are their stories – frozen in time, last updated 2008, chapter 12/? 

Forums are like that to. Was this an inside joke that everyone had cats in their signatures? Maybe it was a community pet? What use to be that broken image? Did they migrate to another forum platform or is the last moment of these characters? Frozen forever in battle against some enemy named after three anime villains.

It always makes me feel sad, god knows why.

Early 2000′s Internet Fandom Gothic

roachpatrol:

saeto15:

actuallyclintbarton:

shithowdy:

  • Someone has been leaving increasingly bizarre messages on your guestbook.
  • You get a favorite on one of your drawings featuring a character’s death. You go to thank them, but have second thoughts when you see their page consists only of a bloated gallery of faves that are all about that one character dying.
  • Just who else is a sock puppet of that BNF?
  • Your favorite fansite still hasn’t come back from hiatus. Rumors swirl on the forums of a different site that the webmistress died, the broken banner on her splash page her online epitaph.
  • You swear you’ve read this songfic set to My Immortal before, but it’s the most recent submission. You couldn’t have. 
  • Your computer doesn’t support Japanese characters but that doesn’t stop you from trying to navigate your fandom’s doujin circles. You somehow stumble onto a page dedicated to lovingly-rendered anatomical dissections of every character.
  • Your favorite fanfiction is getting progressively weirder and more incoherent with every update. You hope the author is okay.
  • You get the feeling you shared this positive fanart of a female character with the wrong crowd.
  • There’s a new batch of icons posted on one of your LJ communities! None of them are loading. Everybody else is commenting on them; why are you the only one who can’t see them?
  • You make a new friend on a forum, and you exchange AIM handles. After a few days of chatting, she begins to tell you about her experiences in something called “the Astral Plane”.
  • This video is taking an eternity to buffer. 
  • DxHxR citrus, PWP, H/C, NC, CBT, WS, M/M, M/M/M, WAFF ^_^ WIP please R&R!!!
  • As you finally turn out the light and close your eyes to go to sleep, you swear you can hear it coming from outside: the dial-up noise.

I think the best part about this is it’s not even really meme-ified, this was LITERALLY what fandom was like.

That’s exactly what I was going to say. People who didn’t experience this probably think it sounds bizarre. No, that’s basically what it was like. Early internet fandom was a strange place.

i think like two thirds of the things on this list happened to me in middle school. 

only-in-movies:

persian-slipper:

teashoesandhair:

ogress:

jhameia:

mademoisellesansa:

rapacityinblue:

queerperegrintook:

emberkeelty:

aporeticelenchus:

heidi8:

sonneillonv:

dressthesavage:

narwhalsareunderwaterunicorns:

anglofile:

spicyshimmy:

how is it possible to love fictional characters this much and also have people always been this way?

like, did queen elizabeth lie in bed late sometimes thinking ‘VERILY I CANNOT EVEN FOR MERCUTIO HATH SLAIN ME WITH FEELS’ 

was caesar like ‘ET TU ODYSSEUS’ 

sometimes i wonder

image

oh my GOD

the answer is yes they did. there’s a lot of research about the highly emotional reactions to the first novels widely available in print. 

here’s a thing; the printing press was invented in 1450 and whilst it was revolutionary it wasn’t very good. but then it got better over time and by the 16th century there were publications, novels, scientific journals, folios, pamphlets and newspapers all over Europe. at first most were educational or theological, or reprints of classical works.

however, novels gained in popularity, as basically what most people wanted was to read for pleasure. they became salacious, extremely dramatic, with tragic heroines and doomed love and flawed heroes (see classical literature, only more extreme.) books in the form of letters were common. sensationalism was par the course and apparently used to teach moral lessons. there was also a lot of erotica floating around. 

but here’s the thing: due to the greater availability of literature and the rise of comfy furniture (i shit you not this is an actual historical fact, the 16th and 17th century was when beds and chairs got comfy) people started reading novels for pleasure, women especially. as these novels were highly emotional, they too became…highly emotional. there are loads of contemporary reports of young women especially fainting, having hysterics, or crying fits lasting for days due to the death of a character or their otp’s doomed love. they became insensible over books and characters, and were very vocal about it. men weren’t immune-there’s a long letter a middle-aged man wrote to the author of his favourite work basically saying that the novel is too sad, he can’t handle all his feels, if they don’t get together he won’t be able to go on, and his heart is already broken at the heroine’s tragic state (IIRC ehh). 

conservatives at the time were seriously worried about the effects of literature on people’s mental health, and thought it damaging to both morals and society. so basically yes it is exactly like what happens on tumblr when we cry over attractive British men, only my historical theory (get me) is that their emotions were even more intense, as they hadn’t had a life of sensationalist media to numb the pain for them beforehand in the same way we do, nor did they have the giant group therapy session that is tumblr. 

(don’t even get me started on the classical/early medieval dudes and their boners for the Iliad i will be here all week. suffice to say, the members of the Byzantine court used Homeric puns instead of talking normally to each other if someone who hand’t studied the classics was in the room. they had dickish fandom in-jokes. boom.) 

I needed to know this.

See, we’re all just the current steps in a time-honored tradition! (And this post is good to read along with Affectingly’s post this week about old-school-fandom-and-history-and-stuff.

Ancient Iliad fandom is intense

Alexander the Great and and his boyfriend totally RPed Achilles and Patroclus. Alexander shipped that hard. (It’s possible that this story is apocryphal, but that would just mean that ancient historians were writing RPS about Alexander and Hephaestion RPing Iliad slash and honestly that’s just as good).

And then there’s this gem from Plato:

“Very different was the reward of the true love of Achilles towards his lover Patroclus – his lover and not his love (the notion that Patroclus was the beloved one is a foolish error into which Aeschylus has fallen, for Achilles was surely the fairer of the two, fairer also than all the other heroes; and, as Homer informs us, he was still beardless, and younger far)” – Symposium

That’s right: 4th Century BCE arguments about who topped. Nihil novi sub sole my friends.

More on this glorious subject from people who know way more than I do

Man I love this post.

And to add my personal favourite story: after reading Samuel Richardson’s Clarissa in the 18th century, Elizabeth Echlin decided that she was NOT HAPPY with the ending and basically wrote her own fix-it fic. No-one dies and Lovelace (the villain) was totally reformed and became a super nice guy. It’s completely OOC and incredibly poorly written and it’s beautiful. 

Also, so many women fell in love with the villain, Lovelace, and wrote to Richardson about it, that he kept adding new bits with each edition to highlight what a hideous person Lovelace was. So it’s almost unsurprising that reading novels in this period was actually considered dangerous because it gave women unrealistic ideas about men and made them easier prey for rakes. 

Basically, “I want my own Christian Grey” has been a thing for hundreds of years. 

Also a thing with fix-it/everyone lives AUs: at various points in time but especially in the mid 1800s-early 1900s (aka roughly Victorian though there were periods of this earlier as well) a huge thing was to “fix” Shakespeare (as well as most theater/novels) to be in line with current morality. Good characters live, bad characters are terribly punished – but not, you know, grusomely, because what would the ladies think? So you have like, productions of King Lear where Cordelia lives and so do Regan and Goneril, but they’re VERY SORRY.

Aka all your problematic faves are redeemed and Everyone Lives! AUs for every protag.

Slightly tangential but I wanted to add my own favorite account of Chinese fandom to this~ I don’t know how many people here have heard of the Chinese novel A Dream of Red Mansions (红楼梦), but it is, arguably, the most famous Chinese novel ever written (There are four Chinese novel classics and A Dream of Red Mansions is considered the top of that list). It was written during the Qing dynasty by 曹雪芹, but became a banned book due to its critique of societal institutions and pro-democracy themes. As a result, the original ending of the book was lost and only the first 80 chapters remained. There are quite a few versions of how the current ending of the book came to be, but one of them is basically about how He Shen, one of Emperor Qian Long’s most powerful advisers, was such a super-fan of the book, he hired two writers to archive and reform the novel from the few remaining manuscripts there were. In order to convince the Emperor to remove the ban on the book, he had the writers essentially write a fanfiction ending to the book that would mitigate the anti-establishment themes. However, He Shen thought that the first version of the ending was too tragic (even though the whole book is basically a tragedy) so he had the writers go back and write a happier ending for him (the current final 40 chapters). He then presented the book to the Emperor and successfully convinced him to remove the ban on the book.

According to incomplete estimates, A Dream of Red Mansions spawned over 20 spin offs, retellings, and alternate versions (in the form of operas, plays, etc.) during the Qing Dynasty alone. 

In 1979, fans (albeit academic ones) started publishing a bi-monthly journal dedicated to analysis (read: meta) on A Dream of Red Mansions. In fact, the novel’s fandom is so vast and qualified and rooted in academics of Chinese literature that there is an entire field of study (beginning in the Qing dynasty) of just this one novel, called 红学. Think of it as Shakespearean studies, but only on one play. This field of study has schools of thought and specific specializations (as in: Psych analyses, Economics analyses, Historical analyses, etc.) that span pretty much every academic field anyone can think of. 

(That being said, I’ve read A Dream of Red Mansions and can honestly say that I’ve never read its peer in either English or Chinese. If for nothing else, read it because you would never otherwise believe that a man from the Qing dynasty could write such a heart-breakingly feminist novel with such a diverse cast of female characters given all the bitching and moaning we hear from male content-creators nowadays)

the beauty of archival research *sigh*

i went to a building that is a “fan recreation” of one of the buildings from Hongloumeng and my like bitter, angry, never smiled once 78yo male teacher was like squeeing and giggling and kept sitting down and fanning himself and posed dramatically for photos

this guy was like the voldemort of staff, a man of legendary terror-inspiring mien. swooning.

A more recent example of fandom in history is the original Sherlock Holmes fan base! It’s one of the earliest coherent models we have that closely represents the fandoms of modern media. 

Arthur Conan Doyle’s first two Sherlock Holmes novels weren’t hugely popular, but when he began to write stories for The Strand magazine involving Sherlock Holmes, the public basically went absolutely mental. He used to get fan mail – predominantly from women, apparently – addressed directly to Sherlock Holmes, some women even offering to be his housekeeper. 

He eventually got so fed up of writing stories about a character he didn’t really like (he considered Sherlock Holmes to be an irritating distraction from his ambition to write historical fiction, once saying “he takes my mind from better things”) that he took measures to end the series once and for all. First, he raised his fee for writing the stories to an extortionate amount, hoping that the magazine would refuse to pay it and fire him. However, there was such a demand for new Sherlock Holmes stories that the magazine just agreed to pay his ridiculous fee. So, he killed off Sherlock Holmes in 1893 in the Reichenbach Falls, and when he did that, shit hit the fan. People reportedly placed Sherlock Holmes obituaries in newspapers. Many of them cancelled their subscription to The Strand, and wrote angry letters to Arthur Conan Doyle explaining how he’d broken their heart. To fill the gap left by the death of their bb, some people wrote fan fiction and shared it in literary groups and book clubs. 

Conan Doyle caved to pressure in 1901 and wrote Hound of the Baskervilles, partly because the fan fervour never really died down, and partly because cash dollah. You know how fans lobbied for the return of Firefly, and ended up getting Serenity made? The original Sherlock Holmes fans totally got there first.

You forgot the bit where Holmes fans wore honest-to-god *mourning* attire after the death of their fave. Men wore crepe armbands in the streets for Holmes. It was redonk.

This whole thing is amazing.