how it should’ve ended
spider-man/deadpool #9 is the worst one yet
deadpool
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Aggressive reminder that this is completely and total bullshit. This is the fucking post that started this rape joke hysteria.
There were no rape jokes, there were no transmisogynist jokes. There were no jokes degrading gender or sexuality. There was no racism. That being said there was a ton of offensive humor. BUT THATS DEADPOOL.
WHY WOULD YOU BE SURPRISED? WERE THE OBSCENE MOVIE POSTERS NOT OBVIOUS ENOUGH? WHAT ABOUT THE EXPLICIT MOVIE TRAILERS? MAYBE EVEN THE R RATING?
Even if you haven’t read the comics, THERE IS NO WAY YOU WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THIS MOVIE WASN’T FOR THE FAINT OF HEART.
Regardless, THERE ISN’T A SINGLE RAPE JOKE MUCH LESS AN “UPSETTING” AMOUNT.
Quit spreading this bullshit around. It’s a blatant, distasteful lie. The OP claims to have seen an early screening. SO WHAT? ITS STILL THE SAME MOVIE. The same movie that has ZERO rape jokes.
Deadpool is not an “unsafe” movie. Good grief, fuck of with this blatant announcement of misinformation. And Tumblr, learn to fucking fact check and maybe even watch something for yourself before latching onto bullshit like this.
Except that this post is itself spreading false information. And the sort of false information that hurts real people, as opposed to hurting…a movie, which does not have feelings and is unlikely to react to someone shouting death threats at it.
Deadpool does have rape/sexual assault jokes. If rape has never touched your life you probably won’t notice them, in which case good. I’m glad rape has never touched your life, I’m glad you’ll never have to deal with that. But unfortunately, as plain and simple statistics will tell you: stand in a room of six women and make even the mildest of rape/sexual assault jokes and chances are you’ll have catapulted at least one of them back to an experience they would much rather forget. How does that relate to Deadpool? Well-
No, most people will not see a line like “I pity the guy who pressures her into prom sex” (which, I hope everyone is done denying exists, it was in the pre-release clips) as a joke about a potential rape. They’ll take it as a crack about Negasonic being able to destroy any guy who actually tries that, and I’m assuming that’s the spirit in which it was intended, too. But, anyone in the audience who actually was pressured into prom sex – and honestly I think it’s be up to them whether they would count an experience like that as rape or not – would probably not appreciate seeing their experience trivialized. (Or, depending on the person, maybe they would not. Maybe they’d find that line empowering. It’s almost like nuance and different reactions and survivors of trauma not being a homogeneous group exist. That too would be up to them.)
Likewise, most people will probably laugh at the scene where Deadpool reaches for Colossus’s cock and says “Daddy?” on finding it. Why they laugh, you could get a whole thesis out of that. I probably laughed too, incidentally, and I wonder why too. Someone who had been the victim of sexual abuse at the hands of their father, though – they may laugh or they may not, because again (woo, we’re getting to the crux of the argument here) people have different reactions to jokes, to trauma, to everything. But if their reaction was to be furious and/or upset at a movie suddenly catapulting them back, without warning and rather casually, to a horrible time of their life – I’m assuming we can all agree that anyone who disregarded their right to do that and to discuss it with people afterwards would be, shall we say, in the wrong.
The bit where Deadpool sexually threatens the stalker at the beginning and kisses him? (his exact joke was something like “leave her alone or you’ll find I have hard spots too. That came out wrong…or did it?”) Totally overlookable, unless you’ve been sexually threatened and non-consensually kissed, in which case – oh, you were enjoying your movie? Well, now you have a cruel little thud in the pit of your stomach to go with it. Because that’s now Reminders Of Bad Things tend to work. Same with the “terrible childhood”/molestation jokes when Wade meets Vanessa. Yes, I know that in this capacity both of them are probably joking from the standpoint of being survivors, but there’s no way a complete newcomer to Deadpool would know that. All they’d see would be a movie joking about the unimaginably awful thing that actually happened to them. Thud.
Anyway, especially when you consider that most people use ‘rape jokes’ as a catch-all banner for ‘rape/sexual assault/molestation/paedophilia jokes’ – “this movie has no rape jokes in it!” is not true. It has Jokes That Evoke The Concept Of Rape. I.e, rape jokes. Why everyone is denying their existence, I have genuinely no idea. Did one half of Tumblr see a completely different cut of the movie? (I’m lying. I have some idea.)
….Oh, that brings us to the transmisogyny/transphobia. Okay: Deadpool tells Angel Dust that she looks like a guy, essentially, and “I’m guessing wang” (Or a line very like that, the joke being: “this woman has a penis, that’s funny.”) I am willing to accept that some people don’t know what transmisogyny is, but … this seems like a pretty good definition. Treating the idea of a woman with a penis as something intrinsically funny, that’s transmisogyny, I’m pretty sure. It’s not my area of expertise, but with so many transgender women saying they found it offensive it may be worth considering…that it might be offensive.
So, to reiterate: if any post is spreading misinformation, it’s this one. (And doing it in the most aggressive, nasty way possible.) Oh, and then there’s this:
WHY WOULD YOU BE SURPRISED? WERE THE OBSCENE MOVIE POSTERS NOT OBVIOUS
ENOUGH? WHAT ABOUT THE EXPLICIT MOVIE TRAILERS? MAYBE EVEN THE R RATING?
An R rating doesn’t reveal what triggers a movie might contain. Nor do the movie posters. The transmisogynistic joke wasn’t featured in trailers, to the best of my knowledge. Not helpful.
God, if only, if only there was some sort of system that people could use to determine precisely what jokes an R-rated movie would have, and what sort of things people might want to avoid. Like making blog posts to warn other people that the movie contains rape and transgender jokes!
…which it, you know, does.
i don’t entirely agree with people who say “you can’t enjoy this piece of media because it’s problematic for all of these reasons.” while there are of course exceptions for exceptionally unacceptable shit i generally think as long as you’re able to acknowledge and filter out the problematic shit without excusing it you should have free license to like what you like.
but the extent to which people will actively deny deadpool had its fair share of iffy jokes is a bit disturbing.
i understand the tendency to defend things you enjoy or like so i’ll chalk the excusals up to selective memory…
but like.
People’s shitty “OMG STOP SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION” reaction to people complaining about the rape/molestation/transmisogyny jokes in Deadpool has infuriated me to the point where I don’t even want to see the movie again. Which sucks, because I generally find Deadpool entertaining and I like Ryan Reynolds, but people have been so profoundly horrible about it that now I can’t help but associate the character in my mind with disgusting people who sent the author of that original ‘deadpool has rape jokes’ post death threats. It’s probably not gonna un-associate itself any time soon, either.
if only we had some sort of system in place.
(struggles with self for a moment)
You know what, I’m gonna say it. I’ve been wanting to say some of this for over ten years.
You are a bad parent.
There were NUMEROUS warning about that movie. A brief search on Google would have showed why it got that rating but you didn’t even bother.
R isn’t an arbitrary letter. It stands for ‘Restricted’ meaning ‘Children under 17 aren’t allowed in without an adult’s presence and permission’. You think maybe there’s a reason for that?
So you know what? Man/Woman up. Be a fucking parent. Don’t give excuses of ‘Well my five year old has seen worse.’ It’s YOUR job to make sure they don’t. If they have, you have FAILED. They want to get something in the adult age bracket? Research it.
IMDB.com gives parental guides to each movie. Here’s the one for Deadpool.
Think it only does rated R movies? Here’s Inside Out. If you don’t want to go through the whole page to find it, just search the words parental guide.
Video game concerns. Here’s the ESRB, which does the same thing.
Be a fucking adult and don’t let media raise your children. If your that fucking lazy/incompetent, you shouldn’t be having them in the first place.
There were kids who looked about FIVE going into Deadpool with their parents the other day! (Although presumably they’d have been stopped at the door, I don’t think the cinema would wanna risk them going in.)
