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The Department Of Grantaire Studies

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shellcollector:

sarah531:

There is a lot, a LOT, of really really good Grantaire meta out there. Seriously, it’s brilliant, and this is my attempt to get it all in one place, and semi-categorised.

I’ve done my best to credit all the authors for each thing, but Tumblr being Tumblr I may have got it wrong in places. Please tell me if I did! (…also tell me if you don’t want your meta linked here, for whatever reason)

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I know for a fact I’ve not been the only one tantalised and frustrated by the amount of linkrot two years have wrought upon this excellent compendium post. However, most of the content is still out there somewhere, either under a new url or in reblogs. I think I’ve managed to track most of it down, and I hope @sarah531 won’t mind that I took the liberty of sharing the result of my detective work.

To make it clear what I’ve done, I’ve added little ridiculous symbols next to each of the links. I’m sure there was a better way of doing this, but it did not occur to me. Comments in italics are mine. All the rest is down to sarah531.

I’m not using a readmore because readmores make posts even more vulnerable – for example, there’s at least one post here that I’m pretty sure still exists except that the readmore has been made unreadable.

Key to symbols:

👍 – the original link still works

✅  – link had rotted, now fixed to new url, if it exists, or else a reblog if I could find one

❌ – unfortunately I couldn’t fix this one

Grantaire’s cynicism/nihilism
👍 Grantaire and Diogenes (gauzythreads)
👍 Grantaire is not a cynic (preliminarygaieties, punforrestpun, robertawickham)
👍 “He sneered at devotion in all parties” (plinytheyounger)
👍 Hugo sets Grantaire up for failure (preliminarygaieties)

Regarding ‘R’
✅  The obsolete word hère (oliszka)
👍  R for refusé (punforrestpun)
✅ Revolution, Romanticism and Robespierre (darkphoenext)

Grantaire and mental illness/neuroatypicality
👍 A conversation about Grantaire, depression and ADHD (nothingrhymeswithsquash, chain-of-prospit)
👍 Grantaire and processing thoughts (preliminarygaieties)
👍 Grantaire’s perception of himself (gauzythreads)
👍 Grantaire and ADHD (nothingrhymeswithsquash)
👍 Grantaire, art style and depression (gauzythreads, pilferingapples, kingmundsroyalmurder) [I’m missing the first part of this conversation, anyone got it?]
👍 Speculating on how depression affects Grantaire (nothingrhymeswithsquash)
👍  Grantaire and hypochrondria (yourpontmercyfriend, nothingrhymeswithsquash, barricadeur)

Grantaire’s sexuality
❌ /??✅  R not being monosexual (sclez)  all sclez’s stuff seems to be gone. This may be a reblog of the post in question, but I can’t be sure.
👍 A little bit about Grantaire’s interactions with women (sarah531)
👍 R being confused over his feelings for Enjolras (rose-and-valerie)
✅ Grantaire’s misogyny (sclez) sclez’s posts are gone from their original location, but here’s a reblog link.

E/R
👍  E/R History Class (et-in-arkadia)
👍  The Obverse (tenlittlebullets)
❌ Why Enjolras is so frustrated with Grantaire (killjoyras) this person’s blog is now viewable to logged-in members only, which still results in anything under a readmore being unreadable by anyone, logged-in or no. Thanks, tumblr! You can still view the first half of the post, if you feel like frustrating yourself today.
✅  “Often, you give the heart, we take the body” (darkphoenext, nothingrhymeswithsquash)
Two sides of a coin/What Grantaire can offer Enjolras (chainsawpoet, swutol-sand-scopes, robertawickham, sclez)
✅   Chickens, eagles, humanity, determinism, and more! (gauzythreads, pilferingapples, darkphoenext)
✅  Grantaire’s happiness (pylades-funk, sclez, darkphoenext)
👍  The paradox of Grantaire needing Enjolras (melannen, pilferingapples, sinnaonthebarricade, darkphoenext)
✅ Romanticism, Revolution, and the Thematic Importance of E/R (darkphoenext)
👍 The bare bosom of Evadne [this is much more about Enjolras, but E/R features a lot] (tenlittlebullets)
👍 How Grantaire interacts with Enjolras (faucheleventt, gauzythreads, punforrestpun, tenlittlebullets)
❌ Why Enjolras and Grantaire are like Orestes and Pylades (ferain1832) user deactivated, content is gone. Unless someone has a reblog of this somewhere?
✅ Love is what will bring tomorrow (ladysaviours) No longer viewable on that blog, but I found a reblog link.

Fun with wordplay
👍 Swallowing a revolution the wrong way (punforrestpun, gauzythreads)
👍 Lost women (sarah531)
👍 Gross yeast infection metaphors! (gauzythreads, viventlespeuples, pilferingapples)
👍 Dick jokes (gauzythreads)
👍 The capitoul and master of the floral games (punforrestpun, pilferingapples, oliszka)

Grantaire’s art studies
👍 What studying under Gros was like (punforrestpun)
👍 Grantaire and art and more! (gauzythreads)
👍 Grantaire’s art styles (gauzythreads)
👍 Grantaire, Enjolras & l’art pour l’art (punforrestpun)

Grantaire’s other talents
❌ Grantaire’s fighting style (sclez, toastandbrokenpromises) this is very gone, and I can’t find any reblogs that look like it.
👍 Who taught Grantaire fencing? (sarah531)

The Barriere du Maine
❌ /✅ What might have happened at the Barriere du Maine (et-in-arkadia, seenonlyfromadistance) So, this is gone, and I can’t even definitively identify the beginning of the conversation on et-in-arkadia’s blog, but here’s a post detailing et-in-arkadia’s interpretation of this scene, and here’s a bonus ficlet on the topic which gets kinda bdsm-y. What seenonly had to say on the topic is lost to history.
👍 Fog and dominoes (swutol-sang-scopes, pilferingapples)
👍 Striking marble (tomisnom, pilferingapples)

Preliminary Gaieties (and the big speech contained therein)
👍 Different translations of the speech (gauzythreads)
✅ R, Joly and Bossuet (preliminarygaieties, punforrestpun, nothingrhymeswithsquash)
👍 Does it have to be you, too? (gauzythreads, pilferingapples)
❌ /✅  Analysis of Grantaire’s speech (sclez) so this is gone, but you can read a longish conversation that followed from it.
👍 More analysis, and some boobies (not that kind) (gauzythreads)
👍 Grantaire’s drinking in this scene (punforrestpun)
👍 More puns (punforrestpun)

Orestes Fasting and Pylades Drunk
✅  Two birds with one stone (sarah531, henryclervals) I think the link in the original post was broken, it was the same url as the one below. However, I’m pretty sure this was the post intended.
❌ Alcohol, rebirth and symbolism (spurioussymbols) gone, can’t find reblogs.
✅  The comfort in chaos (etre-libre-dit-combeferre, nothingrhymeswithsquash) – reblog link.
👍 Seeing things clearly (sarah531, dancetaire, punforrestpun)
👍 Classical allusions (nothingrhymeswithsquash, sinnaonthebarricade, dancetaire)
✅  The meaning of ‘drunk’ (darkphoenext)
✅  How someone falls when they’re shot (darkphoenext)
👍 Seeing each other as people (sarah531)
👍 Important things keep falling at Enjolras’s feet (sarah531)
👍 This fellow is one of them/Biblical references (sarah531, midshipmankennedy, pilferingapples)
👍 Redemption (jehans, landofalwayswinter, edwarddespard)
👍 More redemption (sarah531)
👍 Why Grantaire dies (doeskin-pantaloons)
👍 Two stories (pilferingapples)
👍 God and the fallen man (fizzygingr)

Deleted scenes from the book (no really!) / Victor Hugo’s original notes
✅ Thank you (oliszka)
👍  Take my hand (flo-nelja, tansy-91, sarah531)
👍  I am a swine (flo-nelja, tenlittlebullets)
👍  What Hugo thought R looked like! (plinytheyounger)

Movie/musical exclusive meta
✅ Ascending stairs (thelibrarina, lesbianjolras, sclez) – reblog link.
✅ The hug during Drink With Me (sclez, darkphoenext)
👍  Grantaire’s scream after Gavroche’s death (nothingrhymeswithsquash) added 16/2/14

Misc
✅  Why Grantaire’s important (darkphoenext)
👍 Some analysis of “A Group That Barely Missed Becoming Historic” and R in particular (swutol-sang-scopes)
👍 Lots of canon facts about Grantaire (spoopyrac, gauzythreads, angualupin)
✅  Grantaire representing Paris (darkphoenext)
✅ Les Amis liked R (ladyjolras, sclez) – not in original location, reblog link
👍 Grantaire as the Reader (punforrestpun)
✅ Hugo doesn’t believe in ‘lesser’ (darkphoenext)
👍 Grantaire vs Tholomyes (sarah531)
👍 Grantaire’s flaws/lots about Floreal and women (les-amis-de-labuttc, sarah531, gauzythreads)
👍 Grantaire and The Love Song Of J Alfred Prufrock (nothingrhymeswithsquash, etre-libre-dit-combeferre)
👍 Statues, Grantaire and Matelote (sarah531, nothingrhymeswithsquash)
👍 Grantaire’s ugliness (leyichka, 0fficialgrantaire, punforrestpun, pilferingapples)
👍 Grantaire’s rambles (lecapunk, pilferingapples)
👍 Unpaving hell (nothingrhymeswithsquash)
👍 Meeting R for the first time (sarah531, angualupin)
👍 Imitation and French education of the time (punforrestpun)
👍 We’re never as bad as we think we are (athousandswifts)

A little bit of extra stuff from me (ie from sarah351, the OP)
👍 Fictional characters who shaped my life
👍 A post I am legitimately proud of

Now all we need is another set of links to the last two years’ worth of Grantaire meta!

OH MY GOSH. I’d been meaning to go through that post for ages, fixing all the links, because so many people had changed URLS…and someone’s done it for me! Thank you very much, @shellcollector, I owe you one. :D

(…and, shortly, I will get reading all the ones of these I haven’t read for a while!)

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sclez:

keep-calm-and-les-miserables:

sclez:

blytons:

enjolras and grantaire walking home together in mid-october and enjolras is complaining about his hands being cold and grantaire keeps telling him that they’re obviously not that cold and enjolras sticks out a hand for him to feel how cold they are, he takes it, mutters something about them not being cold enough for him to complain about it, but doesn’t let go and they both have to duck down behind their scarves because they’re b l u s h i ng

OH HKFGHFGF

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I WISH I WAS BETTER AT DRAWING SO I COULD DO THIS JUSTICE.

This is so cute, look at them!

Long time no see!

“Je crois à toi” vs “Je crois en toi”

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just-french-me-up:

As it turns out, grammar does matter, and Hugo knew it damn well. Something has always bothered me about this sentence, and now I know why. The difference doesn’t exist in English translations, because both “à” and “en” translates to “in”, hence Grantaire’s “I believe in you”. But it isn’t the case in French :

“Je crois à toi” isn’t grammatically correct. In French, you don’t believe “à” someone, you believe “en” someone. “Je crois à” is restricted to things and fictional beings, as in :

  • Je crois à la Petite Souris (I believe in the Tooth Fairy)
  • Je ne crois pas à la Révolution (I don’t believe in the Revolution)

There are a few exceptions (because otherwise grammar wouldn’t be grammar) but one thing is certain : “à” can not be used to introduce a noun or pronoun referring to a real person :

  • Je crois en lui (I believe in him)
  • “Je crois à lui” sounds wrong, as wrong as “I believe to him” sounds

Then, why does Hugo use both? Because Grantaire knows the difference as well. Grantaire is good with words and proves it more than once. Remember this quote : “Who has been unhooking the stars without my permission, and putting them on the table in the guise of candles?” ? Grantaire says it drunk. DRUNK. If this man can be that lyrical while smashed to high hell, why would he forget fundamental grammatical principles, all of a sudden?
Answer : he wouldn’t. He does it on purpose.

He’s mirroring Enjolras’s speech :

“Tu ne crois à rien.”
“Je crois à toi.”

This may sound insignificant and, yes, considering the length of the brick, it may be but bear with me. Grantaire is having a laugh, in this passage. Yes, he is serious, he does want to prove his value to Enjolras, but at the same time, he’s Grantaire. He can’t help himself but to play with words. And my best guess is that he’s teasing Enjolras, hence the “Be serious” “I am wild” that comes soon after.

Then what about “Je crois en toi”? Well, it’s a question of context. Look at the description preceeding Grantaire’s declaration :

“Grantaire,” [Enjolras] called, “go and sleep your wine off somewhere else.
This is a place for intoxication but not for drunkenness. Don’t dishonor
the barricade.”

The sharp rebuke had a remarkable effect on Grantaire, as though he
had received a splash of cold water. Suddenly he was sober. He sat down
with his elbows on a table by the window, and looking with great
sweetness at Enjolras called back:

“Tu sais que je crois en toi”

“Go away.”

Grantaire is serious this time. This isn’t a joke anymore. This is a real declaration he’s making here. Enjolras is yelling at him, and yet, Grantaire’s attitude is all but belligerent. I would even argue that “great sweetness” is far from the reverent and loving “inexprimable douceur” from the French text.

Unfortunately, Enjolras is so used to his lack of faith and seriousness that he dismisses it. Grantaire has disappointed him more than once by that point in the brick, so his attitude is understandable. But if Grantaire lacks faith in the cause, he doesn’t lack any in Enjolras. The tragic thing is that Enjolras doesn’t realise it and Grantaire’s serious profession of faith is dismissed. One last nail in your coffin? Look at what comes after :

“Grantaire, you are incapable of believing or thinking or willing or living or dying.”
“You’ll see,” said Grantaire gravely. “You’ll see.”

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